Why didn't Worf go off on Dukat after Jadzia's Murder?
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You know, now that you mention it, that does seem rather odd.
Perhaps Worf was deliberately dedicating himself to his duty as a means of honouring both himself and Jadzia, rather than letting himself get caught up in the "personal revenge for honour's sake" business? They are in the middle of a war, so he has to toe the line. Indeed, he spends months on patrol duties before finding a way to get Jadzia to sto-vo-kor as part of an official mission with actual tactical significance. So he's doing a good job of not letting it get too personal and keeping focused on the wider objective of the conflict.
But yes, I'd have thought Worf would make a few "I must kill Dukat" comments.
Perhaps Worf was deliberately dedicating himself to his duty as a means of honouring both himself and Jadzia, rather than letting himself get caught up in the "personal revenge for honour's sake" business? They are in the middle of a war, so he has to toe the line. Indeed, he spends months on patrol duties before finding a way to get Jadzia to sto-vo-kor as part of an official mission with actual tactical significance. So he's doing a good job of not letting it get too personal and keeping focused on the wider objective of the conflict.
But yes, I'd have thought Worf would make a few "I must kill Dukat" comments.
Me, neither, esp. considering how quickly Worf killed Duras when he killed his previous woman, K'Ehylar.
Why did Dukat bizzarely blame Sisko for the death of Ziyal while at the same absolving Damar (you know, the guy who actually shot her dead) of any responsibility?
Plot contrivance is the answer to both questions.
Plot contrivance is the answer to both questions.
I'd say it's the same reason so many intellectuals blame everyone but the Columbine shooters.
Dukat was "understanding" that circumstances--which he holds to have been brought about by Sisko--had forced Damar to necessarily kill Ziyal.
In Worf's case...who says he didn't try and kill Dukat? There's a three-month period between the seasons. Maybe a big reason he's so royally ticked off in "Image" is because he tried and failed so many times to locate Dukat.
It's like what Hemmingway said, about a story being as an iceberg--most of it's underwater, out of sight.
Then they could have given us a throwaway line to this effect. I doubt Starfleet would let him go off half-cocked on a quest for revenge anyway. I suppose he could have taken a leave from duty, but they already had Sisko doing that.
I was never bothered by Dukat blaming Sisko. He's clearly not in his right mind at that point, no matter how well he can fake the contrary several times during the final season. Blaming Sisko makes perfect sense, in a warped, completely wrong kind of way.
Dukat allied with the Dominion 'for Cardassia', and he retook Terok Nor 'for Cardassian glory', and this, that and the other thing. Sisko had the audacity to come back full-force, get the Prophets involved and royally screw him over. The nerve of that man is unending.
Damar did what he thought best 'for Cardassia', so insane-in-the-membrane Dukat eventually equated that with something far more justifiable than Sisko's horrifying Operation Return.
As for Worf... no. I've never been okay with how that worked. Sisko could have at least told him in the finale, 'say, come with me, will ya?'
Dukat allied with the Dominion 'for Cardassia', and he retook Terok Nor 'for Cardassian glory', and this, that and the other thing. Sisko had the audacity to come back full-force, get the Prophets involved and royally screw him over. The nerve of that man is unending.
Damar did what he thought best 'for Cardassia', so insane-in-the-membrane Dukat eventually equated that with something far more justifiable than Sisko's horrifying Operation Return.
As for Worf... no. I've never been okay with how that worked. Sisko could have at least told him in the finale, 'say, come with me, will ya?'
I agree with Jeff, from Dukat and Damar's POVs killing Ziyal made perfect sense: She was a traitor, and in war you kill traitors.
Dukat chose to blame Sisko because in his mind Sisko was the core cause behind the circumstances that led to Zoyal turning traitor on Dukat.
Worf...well to be fair DS9 was not Worf's finest hour when it came to characterization. This is the same show that had him abandon Alexander and not even bother contacting him in 5 years even when he WASN'T on duty (the year between the destruction of the ENT-D and being assigned to DS9).
Dukat chose to blame Sisko because in his mind Sisko was the core cause behind the circumstances that led to Zoyal turning traitor on Dukat.
Worf...well to be fair DS9 was not Worf's finest hour when it came to characterization. This is the same show that had him abandon Alexander and not even bother contacting him in 5 years even when he WASN'T on duty (the year between the destruction of the ENT-D and being assigned to DS9).
I like Worf a lot more in DS9, personally; he seems more present from what I recall, because it's simply a much more character-driven show. Having watched TNG from the first to sixth seasons again recently and with only another year remaining, Worf just doesn't seem like he's really there as often as I would have thought, apart from his episodes of course.
But Worf does some things in DS9, yeah, that are kind of... eh...
But Worf does some things in DS9, yeah, that are kind of... eh...
To be fair, he actually fights and wins in DS9--as opposed to always getting the bat-snot beat out of him by every "tough" alien threat in TNG.
Well, uh... never. I don't think he ever did. Someone can go ahead and obliterate this statement if they can prove otherwise.
The point is, you'd think he'd have attempted to arrange a meeting somehow.
WORF: "Jadzia was my mate!"
DUKAT: "I'm sorry, I'm afraid I have no idea how you found me."
WORF: "This episode's A-plot was dedicated to my finding you. Thus, it was destiny."
DUKAT: "Well, shit. I was hoping Behr and Beimler would listen to me and go with that Ferengi-centric Mirror Universe ridicule instead. I suppose this means I won't be feigning Bajoran identity in the Final Chapter?"
It's been awhile...but did they ever figure out Dukat was the murderer?
^ Yes, Kira refers to the fact that Dukat killed her in Covenant.
And how would he have done that?
Worf: Colonel, I need a leave of absence.
Kira: Why?
Worf: So I can kill Dukat to revenge Jadzia's murder.
Kira: Well, let's see. We're in the middle of a war and you have extemely important duties to perform here on the station, on the Defiant, and in the Klingon fleet. Request denied.
or....
Worf: Admiral, I need a leave of absence.
Ross: Why?
Worf: To seek revenge for my wife's death.
Ross: You are a Starfleet officer aren't you? Request denied.
or....
Worf: Captain, I need a leave of absence.
Sisko: Why?
Worf: To kill Dukat.
Sisko: We all want to kill him, but we have duties that need to be performed first. Request denied.
Or should he have gone A.W.O.L to do it?
And how would he have done that?
Worf: Colonel, I need a leave of absence.
Kira: Why?
Worf: So I can kill Dukat to revenge Jadzia's murder.
Kira: Well, let's see. We're in the middle of a war and you have extemely important duties to perform here on the station, on the Defiant, and in the Klingon fleet. Request denied.
or....
Worf: Admiral, I need a leave of absence.
Ross: Why?
Worf: To seek revenge for my wife's death.
Ross: You are a Starfleet officer aren't you? Request denied.
or....
Worf: Captain, I need a leave of absence.
Sisko: Why?
Worf: To kill Dukat.
Sisko: We all want to kill him, but we have duties that need to be performed first. Request denied.
Or should he have gone A.W.O.L to do it?
I wonder if, after "Change of Heart," Sisko told Worf that if he struck out on his own after Dukat, it would be the end of his career, that he wasn't going to allow the kinds of liberties Picard did? Could Worf have chosen career after revenge? (And guilt over that might explain his decision to fight that battle for the sake of ensuring Jadzia a place in Sto-Vo-Kor...)
That's a line of thought I can agree with. Though maybe it would have been Ross, given that Sisko didn't stick around too long after Jadzia's death. When Sisko took his leave, Ross was the ranking Starfleet officer, and you can be damn sure that he certainly wouldn't approve of Worf going off and killing Dukat on a sanctioned mission, and he would certainly deny any request from Worf to take a leave, knowing that Worf would try it on his own, and probably would try playing on Worf's sense of duty, that he couldn't take a leave during a time of war.
Shame they didn't include a line to the effect of 'Worf's been really moody since Admiral Ross denied his request for personal leave.' 'Well, yeah, you know he would have just gone to try and find and kill Dukat' in the season seven premiere.
Heh...yeah, I don't think Ross would've taken too kindly to Worf trying to take that kind of personal liberty. He might've even sicced Section 31 on Worf if he'd tried it.
Hmm...Sloan vs. Worf.
Would've LOVED to have seen that.
I wonder...
Would've LOVED to have seen that.
I wonder...
Hmm...Sloan vs. Worf.
Would've LOVED to have seen that.
I wonder...
damn, i would have actually payed to see that one. and BTW, i can so picture Sloan saying that. sloan with his twisted mind...
OT: if i was worf i would have made gagh out of dukat. (and i know its not consistent, but thats the only klingon delicacy i can think of for the moment... )
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