So we can eat veal now because, replicators?
Why didn't Voyager head to the Gamma Q?
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Well according to Eddington, it may look like meat, but it doesn't taste like meat.
And in the design and testing stage, they still have to periodically make real veal to compare the final product to, to make sure it's at least "close" and stays "close".
(Unless everything out of a replicator tastes like chicken?)
But then following your argument Teacake, cannibalism is okay now because of Replicators.
Although if the biomass/resequenced protein is distilled from recycled human poop, then eating from a replicator is cannibalism.
Seven is like Veal if you consider how they got her complexion like that when she first showed up.
In a cage with no sunlight for 20 years,
Actually, if the protein in Replicators is solely from vegetable-matter...
All food and drink from every replicator on Voyager is cleverly disguised leola root.
And in the design and testing stage, they still have to periodically make real veal to compare the final product to, to make sure it's at least "close" and stays "close".
(Unless everything out of a replicator tastes like chicken?)
But then following your argument Teacake, cannibalism is okay now because of Replicators.
Although if the biomass/resequenced protein is distilled from recycled human poop, then eating from a replicator is cannibalism.
Seven is like Veal if you consider how they got her complexion like that when she first showed up.
In a cage with no sunlight for 20 years,
Actually, if the protein in Replicators is solely from vegetable-matter...
All food and drink from every replicator on Voyager is cleverly disguised leola root.
They don't have to keep making veal from actual animals. In the future you just need some original veal cells and you can grow actual veal. This is still less efficient than replicating it but at least you have something to compare the taste to during the initial programming of the veal.
As to the cannibalism question I suspect this would not be allowed in the same way many countries ban animated films or pictures showing illegal and/or violent sexual acts.
As to the cannibalism question I suspect this would not be allowed in the same way many countries ban animated films or pictures showing illegal and/or violent sexual acts.
I'm pretty sure it's better than that. Ultimately though it needs to be programmed with randomness in cooking. Things don't taste real if the whole thing is all the same, you need a bit of dry stuff from where the back of the oven was too hot and an undercooked potato in the middle of the stew and something here and there that is burnt on the ends. That play of flavours and textures that were not the ideal can add a lot of to the experience of food.
When was the last time you microwaved a TV dinner?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwwwful.
The meat and potatoes taste like the same sort of rubber.
YMMV.
Veal cells won't work.
It's about nurture (or the lack there of) rather than nature.
You'd still have maintain immobility and no direct sunlight.
Which is not something that would happen from cloning, unless you gave it a disease that simulated those effects, which wouldn't be passed on to the people eating the clone meat.
Either enlightened Federation citizens are smart enough to know that it's difficult to create a balanced vegetarian diet, so they need the "supplements" in replicated fake meat, or they just claim to be enlightened because it's so ####ing difficult to get their hands on real meat, so that they don't seem like wussies.
Why eat fake pretend meat that looks and "tastes" like real meat (in theory) if it's morally wrong to abuse animals.
This is the porn argument.
Using porn to jack off in secret is bad, apparently, but is it the same sort of bad as spanking it in a public park while watching people walk by?
Why make a safe way to do something awful?
This is why earth looks like a huge park in Star Trek, because it IS a huge park. Not only do you not need all those acres of cows and pigs you don't need crops either. Only crops that are grown are by hobby folk.
You're right about the veal, it couldn't be cloned. But I think it could be replicated the same as any other flavour.
I think people would be revolted by real meat after living off blood free, death free replicator "meat" for so long. They would also be horrified at the length of time it takes to make a nice meal, the fiddlyness of preparing a variety of vegetables to all be ready at once.. Sisko was like some food god because he cooked a basic poor people food that people had been making for generations in the past.
You're right about the veal, it couldn't be cloned. But I think it could be replicated the same as any other flavour.
I think people would be revolted by real meat after living off blood free, death free replicator "meat" for so long. They would also be horrified at the length of time it takes to make a nice meal, the fiddlyness of preparing a variety of vegetables to all be ready at once.. Sisko was like some food god because he cooked a basic poor people food that people had been making for generations in the past.
Naw, Sisko isn't going to dole out replicated Veal to his guests. Poppa Sisko didn't teach him how to cook real food for nothin', dammit. 
It's real animals, chopped up and prepared on the oven he keeps in the utility room in his office in Ops. It's amazing how quickly Jadzia and Miles probably got used to the smell of something cooking, as it wafted down those steps every so often: "Benjamin's Kitchen" they called it.
It's real animals, chopped up and prepared on the oven he keeps in the utility room in his office in Ops. It's amazing how quickly Jadzia and Miles probably got used to the smell of something cooking, as it wafted down those steps every so often: "Benjamin's Kitchen" they called it.
Eating meat is difficult.
A vegetarian who hasn't had meat for even just a year, will be violently ill if they try to eat a "full portion" of steak or something equally as daunting.
A 30 year old human who has never had meat, could have an event on the space toilet that might almost kill them as their body tries to figure out how to digest this stuff.
Farmland is needed.
Using land on Earth for Farmland is not cost effective.
Protein before it is resequenced into "resequenced protein" is something that is grown or harvested.
If it's a question of fast, I'm imagining a mould or fungus that fulfils the same protein requirements as a steak, but literal metric tons of it can grown in vats overnight.
Meat is just too slow to grow to feed the 10s of trillions of people in the Federation.
They were still using grain in the Trouble with tribbles.
(Are tribbles edible? Because that could have solved a lot of problems.)
So a lot of different sorts of raw ingredients are stuck into the back of the replicator.
A vegetarian who hasn't had meat for even just a year, will be violently ill if they try to eat a "full portion" of steak or something equally as daunting.
A 30 year old human who has never had meat, could have an event on the space toilet that might almost kill them as their body tries to figure out how to digest this stuff.
Farmland is needed.
Using land on Earth for Farmland is not cost effective.
Protein before it is resequenced into "resequenced protein" is something that is grown or harvested.
If it's a question of fast, I'm imagining a mould or fungus that fulfils the same protein requirements as a steak, but literal metric tons of it can grown in vats overnight.
Meat is just too slow to grow to feed the 10s of trillions of people in the Federation.
They were still using grain in the Trouble with tribbles.
(Are tribbles edible? Because that could have solved a lot of problems.)
So a lot of different sorts of raw ingredients are stuck into the back of the replicator.
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Well, this was before they knew these guys were Renegades being led by Lore. They thought they were still part of the Collective, but different.
So somehow they'd already theorized that the Borg were from the Delta Quadrant before Descent.
It was presaged back at the end of Blood Fever, getting the audience prepared, though with dialogue being limited to Janeway's two words of dread.
If Tribbles were edible Kirk would be sitting on a famine bonanza instead of a famine. So, no they are not.
Under the fur it's all one big reproductive organ.
Under the fur it's all one big reproductive organ.
Some shellfish are 90 percent sexual organs, and I eat that stuff like candy.
I can easily have 4 or 5 dicks in my mouth at any one time during a family BBQ.
I can easily have 4 or 5 dicks in my mouth at any one time during a family BBQ.
I ate a raw scallop today. It was wonderful and yes, kind of ovary like.
I would totally experiment with tribbles. Maybe they just need the right sauce.
I would totally experiment with tribbles. Maybe they just need the right sauce.
I think tribbles would be too...hairy. Or be too gamey. Tribble is probably a game meat. 
First you peel them. Like sea urchins.
Gamey is good!
Gamey is good!
Skinning them seems annoying.
Maybe cross breed them with something hairless?
Maybe cross breed them with something hairless?
I'm thinking that inside it is like the interior of a loquat, lychee, rambutan, style fruit. A firm slimy ball. You just make a cut in the skin and turn it inside out.
Possibly it may need to to be blanched first.
Possibly it may need to to be blanched first.
It's the born pregnant bit that has me going yuck.
Actually.
Maybe that's how you eat them?
You toss the adult tribbles into a campfire, which act like a lens to cook the babies through, and it is the babies that are boneless and hairless, like popcorn chicken, that you get to by turning the adult inside out.
Actually.
Maybe that's how you eat them?
You toss the adult tribbles into a campfire, which act like a lens to cook the babies through, and it is the babies that are boneless and hairless, like popcorn chicken, that you get to by turning the adult inside out.
