I can't help but imagine a Mirror Picard with a full, thick head of hair.
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Why didn't TNG go to the mirror universe?
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I had a new idea on this concept
Barclay is the Captain. He is more hardcore and brutal than real Barclay.
Troi is first officer and his wife. She used to be a spy
Riker=Used to be be with Troi but she dumped him for Barclay and then was demoted and is a bitter being just the ships pilot
Picard-He is sort of like Alfred to Barclay's Batman. Just a Yeomen but who will kill for him and do seedy things he doesn't feel like doing.
Data=Is just like regular Data. On purpose. They don't want a Data with ambition because he is to strong and could killed anyone, easily.
LaForge=Is Ship's Engineer and is blind without a visor. Instead of being killed like many people who are disabled in the mirror universe would be, he actually was able to rise to the rank of chief engineer by being smarter and cunning than all those people who looked down at him.
O'Brien-Chief of Security. Sort of foul mouthed pirate type.
Worf-Runs 10 forward and the holodecks. Kind of like a more sleezy Klingon version of Quark.
Crusher-She is Empress of Earth. She used to be Captain of the Enterprise before taking power. It's still her favorite ship and loves to go on conquest and adventures with it, when she is in the mood.
Wesley-Like a evil Doogie Howser who is the ships chef medical officer.
Barclay is the Captain. He is more hardcore and brutal than real Barclay.
Troi is first officer and his wife. She used to be a spy
Riker=Used to be be with Troi but she dumped him for Barclay and then was demoted and is a bitter being just the ships pilot
Picard-He is sort of like Alfred to Barclay's Batman. Just a Yeomen but who will kill for him and do seedy things he doesn't feel like doing.
Data=Is just like regular Data. On purpose. They don't want a Data with ambition because he is to strong and could killed anyone, easily.
LaForge=Is Ship's Engineer and is blind without a visor. Instead of being killed like many people who are disabled in the mirror universe would be, he actually was able to rise to the rank of chief engineer by being smarter and cunning than all those people who looked down at him.
O'Brien-Chief of Security. Sort of foul mouthed pirate type.
Worf-Runs 10 forward and the holodecks. Kind of like a more sleezy Klingon version of Quark.
Crusher-She is Empress of Earth. She used to be Captain of the Enterprise before taking power. It's still her favorite ship and loves to go on conquest and adventures with it, when she is in the mood.
Wesley-Like a evil Doogie Howser who is the ships chef medical officer.
I'll admit I only read the first two posts of the thread and assumed that users would present their ideas as the thread went on, so I skipped it so I could come up with my own ideas.
So, some ideas for what a TNG mirror universe would have been like:
Malevolent Captain Riker. Think something like that dark Janeway. In this universe, Picard remained a Borg, the Enterprise D couldn't destroy him/he got away, whatever, so Riker is now in command of the battleship Enterprise. Tasha Yar lives and she's his second in command and chief of security (a variant on Judge and executioner). Oh, and he has a goatee -- be goatees are, of course, evil.
Yes, Troi is also evil and she users her abilities to manipulate and harm others.
There was a brief peace with the Klingons, at which point Worf tried to join, got in, was on the Enterprise, but was treated awfully by Riker and crew, and now that the peace is off, Worf commands his own Klingon battleship which has encounters with the Enterprise.
That's all I got.
So, some ideas for what a TNG mirror universe would have been like:
Malevolent Captain Riker. Think something like that dark Janeway. In this universe, Picard remained a Borg, the Enterprise D couldn't destroy him/he got away, whatever, so Riker is now in command of the battleship Enterprise. Tasha Yar lives and she's his second in command and chief of security (a variant on Judge and executioner). Oh, and he has a goatee -- be goatees are, of course, evil.
Yes, Troi is also evil and she users her abilities to manipulate and harm others.
There was a brief peace with the Klingons, at which point Worf tried to join, got in, was on the Enterprise, but was treated awfully by Riker and crew, and now that the peace is off, Worf commands his own Klingon battleship which has encounters with the Enterprise.
That's all I got.
Would've been cool, but then again, there's already enough 'small universe' syndrome in Trek as it is.
Because this isn't TOS, it's its own show that takes place in the same universe and continuity. I can only assume that's the reason, although I suppose Episode 2 does poke a hole in my argument... 
"Resistence is entirely optional. You will be enrolled in membership."
In the mirror universe, Troi drowned her sister. There can only be one.
Didn't they actually consider doing that?
IIRC, in the novels, the mirror Borg are pretty much the same as the prime version, except they have a King and their ships are diamonds, not cubes.
Nah, the truly different Borg would be this:
WE ARE THE CANADIAN BORG
RESISTANCE WOULD BE IMPOLITE
PLEASE WAIT TO BE ASSIMILATED
(Pour l'assimilation en francais, veuillez appuyer sur le '2'.)
What?
Me too, me too:
Admiral Jean-Luc Picard is the ruthless CO of the Enterprise, responsible for several genocides, his idea of diplomacy is to only kill half the population of a planet and giving the remaining half a second chance to become a good subject species of the empire.
William Riker, Picard's XO and tactical officer and pretty much his lap dog, he realized early on that despite his own ambitions to command a starship he would become a target for a lot of people and instead attached himself to Picard to be in a powerful position while also enjoying Picard's protection. Picard looks down on him, he has little respect for men like Riker. Picard keeps him around for now because he's useful but if an XO as loyal as Riker but less of a sycophant shows up Riker is done.
Android 38 is Picard's personal guard, he has no ambitions other than to serve his captain, as far as the crew knows he is absolutely loyal to Picard. He is one of 53 identical android guards created by Noonian Soong. After his death no one was able to successfully create more working positronic brains. 5 androids were sacrificed trying to reverse engineer them but after that failed the remaining 48 have become incredibly valuable. 24 make up the imperial guard protecting the empress herself, the other 24 were distributed to high ranking government officials and the most loyal officers within starfleet.
Deanna Troi is the ministry of loyalty's observer on the Enterprise who has the job to sniff out any resistance against the empire. She is the only one on the ship who could order Android 38 to eliminate Picard himself if necessary and the only one who Android 38 would never harm on Picard's orders. Picard suspects this but does not dare to test his theory and Deanna loves feeling his uneasiness around her. She occasionally arrests, tortures and executes random crew members if there's no actual seditious activity going on.
Beverly Howard is the ship's chief medical officer, specializing in xenotorture. She was married to Jack Crusher, the Enterprise's previous XO but after he was killed by a subordinate officer 5 years ago she was disgusted by Jack's weakness and dropped his name. She assassinated the man who killed Jack in the most gruesome way possible, not for revenge but out of principle, Jack was ultimately worthless but he was her's. She and Deanna became close friends, both women recognized a cruelty in the other that matched their own. Beverly provides Deanna with new torture devices and methods and Deanna went so far as to let Beverly pick a crew member to kill. Reginald Barclay would have regretted the day he called Beverly Dr. Crusher had he known who was responsible for his fate.
Wesley Troi always adored his mother Beverly and became a medical officer like her, on the Enterprise he is currently responsible for slave enhancement. His research led to alien slaves' life spans on the Enterprise being 30% above the starfleet average after only killing 3,400 from the Enterprise's slave bays. He received the Zavorski-Brightman medal at 19 years of age making him the youngest recipient ever, his mother's proudest day and definite proof that he's nothing like his father. On his mother's advice he became one of Deanna's lovers shortly after receiving the medal, she thought her son and best friend were the perfect match. She was right, Wesley's disregard for life quickly made him Deanna's favorite and they executed the rest of her harem on their wedding night following betazoid tradition. Deanna was especially excited that he didn't even hesitate to slit the throat of Harry Kim, one of his classmates who he used to be quite close to.
Worf, a klingon slave working in engineering, due to the high radiation no proper empire citizen spends more than 45 minutes per day down there. Worf, like every klingon knows his only purpose in life is to to serve the empire, he's grateful the empire freed his people from the tyrannical warrior caste ruling his world and it's the greatest honor to be allowed to live in the vicinity of empire citizens, especially humans. His greatest dream is to die with a human watching. A single human watching a Klingon die opens the doors to heaven for them, Worf does not know the old klingon word for that place but he does not care, the humans call it heaven so that's what he'd call it no matter what.
Geordi La Forge was never born, the pregnancy was terminated when doctors realized he would be born blind. Empire medicine could fix that of course but that honor is reserved for people who lose limbs or senses in service of the empire.
Admiral Jean-Luc Picard is the ruthless CO of the Enterprise, responsible for several genocides, his idea of diplomacy is to only kill half the population of a planet and giving the remaining half a second chance to become a good subject species of the empire.
William Riker, Picard's XO and tactical officer and pretty much his lap dog, he realized early on that despite his own ambitions to command a starship he would become a target for a lot of people and instead attached himself to Picard to be in a powerful position while also enjoying Picard's protection. Picard looks down on him, he has little respect for men like Riker. Picard keeps him around for now because he's useful but if an XO as loyal as Riker but less of a sycophant shows up Riker is done.
Android 38 is Picard's personal guard, he has no ambitions other than to serve his captain, as far as the crew knows he is absolutely loyal to Picard. He is one of 53 identical android guards created by Noonian Soong. After his death no one was able to successfully create more working positronic brains. 5 androids were sacrificed trying to reverse engineer them but after that failed the remaining 48 have become incredibly valuable. 24 make up the imperial guard protecting the empress herself, the other 24 were distributed to high ranking government officials and the most loyal officers within starfleet.
Deanna Troi is the ministry of loyalty's observer on the Enterprise who has the job to sniff out any resistance against the empire. She is the only one on the ship who could order Android 38 to eliminate Picard himself if necessary and the only one who Android 38 would never harm on Picard's orders. Picard suspects this but does not dare to test his theory and Deanna loves feeling his uneasiness around her. She occasionally arrests, tortures and executes random crew members if there's no actual seditious activity going on.
Beverly Howard is the ship's chief medical officer, specializing in xenotorture. She was married to Jack Crusher, the Enterprise's previous XO but after he was killed by a subordinate officer 5 years ago she was disgusted by Jack's weakness and dropped his name. She assassinated the man who killed Jack in the most gruesome way possible, not for revenge but out of principle, Jack was ultimately worthless but he was her's. She and Deanna became close friends, both women recognized a cruelty in the other that matched their own. Beverly provides Deanna with new torture devices and methods and Deanna went so far as to let Beverly pick a crew member to kill. Reginald Barclay would have regretted the day he called Beverly Dr. Crusher had he known who was responsible for his fate.
Wesley Troi always adored his mother Beverly and became a medical officer like her, on the Enterprise he is currently responsible for slave enhancement. His research led to alien slaves' life spans on the Enterprise being 30% above the starfleet average after only killing 3,400 from the Enterprise's slave bays. He received the Zavorski-Brightman medal at 19 years of age making him the youngest recipient ever, his mother's proudest day and definite proof that he's nothing like his father. On his mother's advice he became one of Deanna's lovers shortly after receiving the medal, she thought her son and best friend were the perfect match. She was right, Wesley's disregard for life quickly made him Deanna's favorite and they executed the rest of her harem on their wedding night following betazoid tradition. Deanna was especially excited that he didn't even hesitate to slit the throat of Harry Kim, one of his classmates who he used to be quite close to.
Worf, a klingon slave working in engineering, due to the high radiation no proper empire citizen spends more than 45 minutes per day down there. Worf, like every klingon knows his only purpose in life is to to serve the empire, he's grateful the empire freed his people from the tyrannical warrior caste ruling his world and it's the greatest honor to be allowed to live in the vicinity of empire citizens, especially humans. His greatest dream is to die with a human watching. A single human watching a Klingon die opens the doors to heaven for them, Worf does not know the old klingon word for that place but he does not care, the humans call it heaven so that's what he'd call it no matter what.
Geordi La Forge was never born, the pregnancy was terminated when doctors realized he would be born blind. Empire medicine could fix that of course but that honor is reserved for people who lose limbs or senses in service of the empire.
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I think you mean CO (Commanding Officer) given that you refer to Riker correctly as the XO later.
I'd also suggest Commodore or Fleet Captain would make more sense, as they can still command individual starships but YMMV.
That largely made sense when they added it in In A Mirror Darkly, but it stretches credibility for me that this is still a problem centuries later.
Yes, I meant CO, I fixed it, thanks.
TNG didn't use Commodore and Fleet Captain so I went with Admiral Picard because I wanted him to have a higher rank. But he can also be a Commodore, I'm not married to the idea of making him an Admiral.
It's not a problem it's a choice just like they made the choice to kill Geordi instead of giving him a visor. The point is to make them over the top evil.
The TOS mirror Enterprise didn't have slaves on board so they turned the radiation off to be able to work in engineering themselves.
I didn't mention that part, as I don't really have any issue with that.
So, why turn it back on?
It seems unlikely that they ever deliberately leaked radiation just for the evulz, it was more a case them prioritising quantity (more ships) rather than quality (safer, more efficient ships) in the early changes, so any anti-radiation changes that they make along line would improve the quality of the system generally, IMO.
You didn't mention it but it's the same reasoning. They do it because it's evil.
You're overthinking this. Of course it doesn't make a lot of sense, it's the mirror universe, nothing there makes a lot of sense. The could have beaten the Halkans into submission with a stick and ordered them to deliver dilithium, there was no need to phaser their cities from orbit, they were going to do it anyway and commit genocide because evil and that was the tamest portrayal of the MU.
Yeah, in the prime 'verse Kestra DID drown. She wasn't eaten by a wolf.
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