Why didn't the Zhat Vash target Data and Lore?

[Zombie Cheerleader]

Regarding Star Trek: The Next Generation: I only know of one Vash.

The Zhat Vash are from Picard and are an organization, not a person.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The Zhat Vash are from Picard and are an organization, not a person.

Maybe they're like "James Bond" in Peter Seller's Casino Royale, where everyone who works for the Secret Service are all "James Bond"?

 

[matthunter]

Data and Lore, however, were handcrafted, and fully mechanical androids. Their brains were not modeled on any specific human neural pattern. That's why the Zhat Vash could have regarded Data and Lore as "controllable anomalies".

Juliana, however, was modelled on a specific human neural pattern.

I think your other point that Soong's original creations hadn't met a "critical level" is more important. No-one was really trying to mass produce - let only improve on - Soong's designs, until pre-PIC where the Federation cracked the ability to make the Mars synths (limited as those seemed to be compared to Data).

 

[Uncle Sock]

Juliana, however, was modelled on a specific human neural pattern.

I think your other point that Soong's original creations hadn't met a "critical level" is more important. No-one was really trying to mass produce - let only improve on - Soong's designs, until pre-PIC where the Federation cracked the ability to make the Mars synths (limited as those seemed to be compared to Data).

I have to disagree about Juliana. She was still a Soong-type android—indistinguishable from humans on the surface, sure, but fully mechanical underneath. She had a neural pattern based on a human, yes, but it was more about mimicking a specific person than creating a new, independent personality. Plus, she was designed with a limited lifespan from the start, which might’ve played into the Zhat Vash not targeting her—if they were even aware of her.

Soji and Dahj, on the other hand, are Coppelius-type androids created through “fractal neuronic cloning,” and I think that’s the real game-changer. I totally agree with what you said about there being a critical level of "evolution"—but they are the ones who are at that level. Juliana just wasn’t there yet.

Totally different note: I love how we can always nerd out like this in the forums—these kinds of deep dives and theories are the best.

 

[Toril Toran]

I think because of the secretive nature of the Romulans, perhaps they did not know about Data. Anyone who did know, it would not take much convincing to get them to keep quiet.

Remember what the Romulan said in the first(?) season of Picard?
“Can you keep a secret? So can I.”

Or perhaps they did know…

I have a question: How could the Zhat Vash know what level of technological level the AI had achieved on every planet?
Answer: Q

Perhaps the Q monitor such progress to prevent another Borg-like species? Such a species, if they joined the Borg could take over every planet, in every sector, in every parallel world.

Then what would happen to Q’s favourite pet, Picard?

Or perhaps the Q Continium is worried that the Borg could assimilate the Q before they achieved their ascension to become Q?