Why didn't the Enterprise beam up Vulcans?

[T'Paul]

I think the transporter was still not really up to par until Scotty came along. That, and there were a lot of Vulcans to beam up.

"All or none! Lets get the hell out of here."

It would only be logical not to favour the one Vulcan over the other.

That's retarded.

 

[Sky]

Did you see how long it took to get a lock on stationary targets? Most Vulcans on the planet were running for shelter and it took a full 10 seconds for the transporter beam to grab hold of Spock's party, and it's even not a sure thing you're locked when the swirls start based on Amanda falling out of the transporter beam.

Transporter tech is far from perfected in the 2250's.

You do understand that the Enterprise, while in orbit, is not still either?

(Also, if it's possible to transport to a ship which is in warp... )

 

[NumberOne]

They couldn't beam anyone until the drill thingy was destroyed. Once it was destroyed they pretty much had enough time to get Spock and company back to the ship and try to get outta dodge.

 

[Amaris]

Did you see how long it took to get a lock on stationary targets? Most Vulcans on the planet were running for shelter and it took a full 10 seconds for the transporter beam to grab hold of Spock's party, and it's even not a sure thing you're locked when the swirls start based on Amanda falling out of the transporter beam.

Transporter tech is far from perfected in the 2250's.

That is something I loved about this movie. We have taken transporters for granted in Star Trek, but here, they seem more realistic (as real as a transporter gets anyway). They're not flawless, they're not perfect. They have to focus, lock, and even then if you're moving your signal can be lost. It felt more real that way. Something like a transporter should be difficult to perfect.

J.

 

[ParticleMan]

Didn't Chekov say something about trying to compensate for the increased gravitational forces because of the black hole forming at the center of Vulcan? I figured that coupled with the movement of falling off the cliff is what ultimately sealed Amanda's fate. That too would explain why it seemed that the beam up of the Vulcan council took even longer than the other transports we saw in the film.

 

[USS Gettysburg]

Remember the black hole was still giving them gravitational problems. That is why Checkov had to run down to transporting so that he could run the calculations on how to get them. If it took that much time for 2 people I'd imagine they'd only get 10 - 20.

This movement thing raises another good question. What do Vulcans do when their planet is about to come to an end? From the movie it looks like they meditate about it. Obviously the don't panic. Maybe the logical thing was to just say "Screw it, we're gonna die."

 

[urbandk]

again, maybe they did transport some other vulcans, but they didn't show them on screen. spock did say "no more than ten thousand" survivors. maybe some were on the enterprise. who knows? isn't there a nitpicking thread somewhere?

 

[Amaris]

Didn't Chekov say something about trying to compensate for the increased gravitational forces because of the black hole forming at the center of Vulcan? I figured that coupled with the movement of falling off the cliff is what ultimately sealed Amanda's fate. That too would explain why it seemed that the beam up of the Vulcan council took even longer than the other transports we saw in the film.

Yep. He had to run the numbers in his head and compensate for the changing gravity.

J.

 

[T'Paul]

Didn't Chekov say something about trying to compensate for the increased gravitational forces because of the black hole forming at the center of Vulcan? I figured that coupled with the movement of falling off the cliff is what ultimately sealed Amanda's fate. That too would explain why it seemed that the beam up of the Vulcan council took even longer than the other transports we saw in the film.

I don't understand why the computer couldn't do the same compensation Chekov did.

 

[Awesome Possum]

Didn't Chekov say something about trying to compensate for the increased gravitational forces because of the black hole forming at the center of Vulcan? I figured that coupled with the movement of falling off the cliff is what ultimately sealed Amanda's fate. That too would explain why it seemed that the beam up of the Vulcan council took even longer than the other transports we saw in the film.

I don't understand why the computer couldn't do the same compensation Chekov did.

Computers can't do everything.

 

[T'Paul]

Didn't Chekov say something about trying to compensate for the increased gravitational forces because of the black hole forming at the center of Vulcan? I figured that coupled with the movement of falling off the cliff is what ultimately sealed Amanda's fate. That too would explain why it seemed that the beam up of the Vulcan council took even longer than the other transports we saw in the film.

I don't understand why the computer couldn't do the same compensation Chekov did.

Computers can't do everything.

I'm not talking about everything. I'm talking about compensating with the transporter.

 

[cwl]

because the computer isnt programmed to.

after the events are over Chekov might write a program for the computer to make the calculations- thereby advancing transporters in all of the Federation.

 

[jhouston6]

They estimated 10,000 survivors. I dont think all those were off planet.

 

[Brent]

I don't understand why the computer couldn't do the same compensation Chekov did.

Computers can't do everything.

I'm not talking about everything. I'm talking about compensating with the transporter.

They have probably never run into this kind of situation before

 

[urbandk]

Computers can't do everything.

I'm not talking about everything. I'm talking about compensating with the transporter.

They have probably never run into this kind of situation before

QED.