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Why Didn't Harry Get Promoted?

unless marrying the daughter of Tom Paris and Kes counts as this
Neelix, Tom, and Harry are all honorable men, and none are prone to exploiting the innocent and vulnerable (and they've all had the chance). In light of that, I'm giving them all a pass regarding Kes and Linnis.
 
Speaking of all this, I wonder why the possibility of Harry Kim/Kes pairing is rarely mentioned. They were both unattached in the second part of Season 3, they were good friends (I really liked their scene in "Partition") and, unlike some, Harry seems to respect her in all things... Although, admittedly, he DID ignored her in "Alter Ego" when Kes was in a bathing suit, but he was going after that hologram at the time...
 
Harry's like 30 years her senior and basically an uncle.:ack:
So when Andrew starts dating Naomi, when they look the same age, but a year later he looks like her dad, shouldn't he hook up with Samantha, when actually he's too young for both of them?
 
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The spacial schism couldn't duplicate antimatter.

Two Voyagers.

One with antimatter, and one with out.

Firstly we followed the story of the ship with no antimatter where fetal Naomi died.

That's the fake ship.

On the Real ship, with antimatter, that was being threatened by a Kazon boarding party, real Kim, took real alive baby Naomi away to live on the fake Voyager, because she was innocent, and did not sign up for this shit, and apparently fake Janeway needed a replacement Kim, for the corpse she was mourning, rather than a second Tuvok.

Kim and Seven and Naomi were the only real people on the ship, by the time they got to Earth.

OR!!!!

The spacial schism destroyed the original Voyager and created two equally almost as good as the real thing Voyagers with corresponding not exactly authentic crew.

Nothing was real, and nothing matters after season 2.
It's stuff like this where I wonder what the heck the writers were thinking.
 
She's an adult with a medical degree.

If Harry waited until Lynnis was street legal, she'd be dead and buried, not that that's stopped Harry before.
True. Assuming the Ocampa lifespan was dominant, she'd die at half what we consider the "legal" age.

Harry's like 30 years her senior and basically an uncle.:ack:
We know Harry was good with kids from Linnis. So likely as not, he sang to her and played with her, just as he did Andrew. So exploring his inner conflict as he began to see her a different way... it would make an interesting story.
 
Not helping the creep factor.
That may be part of why they decided to retire the character. And also why B&A happened the way it did. They weren't going to have Kes go through the whole glorious journey of life in 7 years like they planned, so they decided to accelerate the process.

EDIT: In hindsight, I think the Trek writers didn't "get" their audience when they made the decision for Kes to have romances in any context. They figured that her (adult) appearance would let us see past the "creep" factor of her chronological age. But from what I've seen, it doesn't. And I totally understand that.
 
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Lower Decks' "Fissure Quest" has been aired, and it is the perfect explanation of why Harry Kim never got promoted.

The ship found countless alternate Kims, all ensigns, and one lieutenant commander. And just being LT is enough to make him drunk with power, to the point of stealing a ship and leaving everybody else behind to bring all the Kims to his universe so they get promoted (??), multiverse be damned.

#JanewayWasRight
Eh. I figured it was because of the fact every other kim was an ensign. Kinda made brain snap.
 
That may be part of why they decided to retire the character. And also why B&A happened the way it did. They weren't going to have Kes go through the whole glorious journey of life in 7 years like they planned, so they decided to accelerate the process.

EDIT: In hindsight, I think the Trek writers didn't "get" their audience when they made the decision for Kes to have romances in any context. They figured that her (adult) appearance would let us see past the "creep" factor of her chronological age. But from what I've seen, it doesn't. And I totally understand that.
I really donlt like that. And especially in Star Trek fandom! I mean, how would realtionships between 20 years old look for a Vulcan (ok, if Vulcans were not having arranged marriages). I mean, should we consider relationship between 20 years old Vulcan and 20 years old human right just because, for a human, they're adult at 20 years old?
 
True. Assuming the Ocampa lifespan was dominant, she'd die at half what we consider the "legal" age.


We know Harry was good with kids from Linnis. So likely as not, he sang to her and played with her, just as he did Andrew. So exploring his inner conflict as he began to see her a different way... it would make an interesting story.
The story of Harry Kim and Linnis: from uncle to 'daddy'...
 
I really donlt like that. And especially in Star Trek fandom! I mean, how would realtionships between 20 years old look for a Vulcan (ok, if Vulcans were not having arranged marriages). I mean, should we consider relationship between 20 years old Vulcan and 20 years old human right just because, for a human, they're adult at 20 years old?
It's worse in this case. When we humans think "two years old", we think teddy bears, sippy cups, and princess outfits.
 
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