Indeed. Deep Space 9, alone among the shows, got promotion exactly right, even though they did all the promotions at certain times so they wouldn't have to mess with the credits every year. Sisko, Dax, Bashir, Nog, and even Kira ranked up properly. Worf didn't, but he was fresh from a promotion to Lt. Commander in Generations, so he wasn't due (so even with him, they got it right).Harry could easily have been promoted in "NIGHT", the season 5 premiere, by Kim walking onto the bridge with his Lt. pips... exactly how we discovered Dax and Bashir got a promotion between season 3 and 4.
That same argument means that Tom and Tuvok should not have been promoted, either.Somebody's gotta be the ensign. The ship can't run properly if everybody has a high rank.
I think it's pretty obvious that the integrity of the prime timeline depends on Harry being an ensign.
If he does get promoted in an upcoming Lower Decks, that would explain the degradation of the galaxy we see in Star Trek Picard. Graphic violence, everyone starts swearing, people can't afford to turn the lights on...mass hysteria!
A few problems with that...
1. Given that Harry earned a hollow pip in 8 months in the "Non Sequiteur" timeline, he should have been promoted long before contact was made with Starfleet.
2. Tom was promoted back to lieutenant at the end of S6, well after contact was made with Starfleet.
3. Harry's remark suggested that there was no reason why he couldn't be promoted as well.
4. It's just illogical. Starfleet is OK with a Maquis terrorist as first officer and a Starfleet dropout as chief engineer, but they can't handle an Academy graduate getting promoted on schedule? It would have made more sense for them to direct Janeway to promote him.
I've heard Harry's admittedly juvenile behavior in "Resolutions" as a justification before. However, consider that Harry only advocated for disobeying Janeway's explicit orders. Tuvok actually did it. A year later, Janeway promoted him to lieutenant commander. Why would she (or Starfleet) ruin Harry for suggesting an action and reward Tuvok for carrying it out?
Doesn't matter, really. Harry should have had his lieutenant pips by around about "Basics", especially when you factor in the death of Durst (the highest ranking ops officer).She promoted Tuvok *before* contact with Starfleet. My theory is that Tuvok was the last promotion she got away with before contact with Starfleet put major limits on promotions.
Then why wasn't he relieved of duty?maybe Harry being infected by the Caretaker raised some concerns
This would have been a brilliant plot twist fir Harry, especially if it was revealed that no, he wasn't originally a Taresian, but the retrovirus he caught couldn't be stopped, so he was going to turn into one.And/or his incident in "Favorite Son" casting doubt on his true origins. Maybe Starfleet had some suspicions about him being an alien, or possessed by one, or something.
What bothers me is just how keeping him an ensign would have torpedoed Harry's career post return.I think it's pretty obvious that the integrity of the prime timeline depends on Harry being an ensign.
Maybe Starfleet had some suspicions about him being an alien, or possessed by one, or something.
Somebody's gotta be the ensign. The ship can't run properly if everybody has a high rank. That's not a problem elsewhere because the excess higher ranks can be transferred to other ships and new ensigns replace the promoted ones... but in Voyager?
And also...
![]()
True. But that's because most Naval personnel are enlisted, and most enlisted crew stay enlisted (a few promising ones get sent to OCS and become officers; these are called "mustang" officers). For officers, promotion from ensign to LTJG is pretty much automatic after two years, sometimes sooner.In the US Navy, today, 80 percent of any ship is enlisted crew, who are all junior to and Ensign... The same should be true on Voyager hundreds of years in the future?
True. But that's because most Naval personnel are enlisted, and most enlisted crew stay enlisted (a few promising ones get sent to OCS and become officers; these are called "mustang" officers). For officers, promotion from ensign to LTJG is pretty much automatic after two years, sometimes sooner.
Had Harry been a Crewman, it would have made some sense for him to stay one. But the Ensign rank doesn't work the same way.
Gene had this weird thing where everyoen was an Officer in TOS. I think O'Brian was the only enlisted man we have seen on screen.If they figured out what was going on with enlisted rank, they never made it canon, but there was room for advancement.
- Master chief petty officer
- Senior chief petty officer
- Chief petty officer
- Petty officer
- First class
- Second class
- Third class
- Crewman
- First class
- Second class
- Third class
An argument given against massive numbers of enlisted crew, is automation, self cleaning and food replicators.
Simon Tarses was referred to as "crewman" as his rating in the Drumhead.Gene had this weird thing where everyoen was an Officer in TOS. I think O'Brian was the only enlisted man we have seen on screen.
Star Trek always did a much worse job with enlisted personnel hierarchy than with officers.If they figured out what was going on with enlisted rank, they never made it canon, but there was room for advancement.
- Master chief petty officer
- Senior chief petty officer
- Chief petty officer
- Petty officer
- First class
- Second class
- Third class
- Crewman
- First class
- Second class
- Third class
An argument given against massive numbers of enlisted crew, is automation, self cleaning and food replicators.
Neelix was never even an enlisted officer. All his duties (chef, ambassador, morale officer) were titles. Never had a rank or even enlisted rank.Star Trek always did a much worse job with enlisted personnel hierarchy than with officers.
The only main characters on Trek who held enlisted rank were O'Brien and (possibly) Neelix.
Tuvok's holographic punching bag....chef, ambassador, morale officer
Gene had this weird thing where everyoen was an Officer in TOS.
We use essential cookies to make this site work, and optional cookies to enhance your experience.