Another Trek movie is a given, seeing as it's one of Paramount's few successful franchises. Whether it's a continuation of this movie series or not, factor in all of the behind the scenes drama going on with Paramount, Viacom etc...
Why didn't Beyond do better at the Box Office?
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I don't mind a new view on the Star Trek movies (again), as long as we don't have to wait seven years for it.
Kelvin Timeline consoles seem a lot less explodey though, so maybe the Apple store look has some merit after all.
Paramount may have screwed themselves already by giving Trek 4 a go ahead and bringing back Hemsworth. Honestly, I'm not fond of the Hollywood trope that's been happening lately of, "If it messes up, reboot it."Another Trek movie is a given, seeing as it's one of Paramount's few successful franchises. Whether it's a continuation of this movie series or not, factor in all of the behind the scenes drama going on with Paramount, Viacom etc...
I'd just as soon the movies stopped and Trek concentrated on TV, but that's not going to happen. It may have if it was all one company, but Paramount won't make anything off the new TV show. They're going to have to make movies to get any return on their IP.Kelvin Timeline consoles seem a lot less explodey though, so maybe the Apple store look has some merit after all.
Paramount may have screwed themselves already by giving Trek 4 a go ahead and bringing back Hemsworth. Honestly, I'm not fond of the Hollywood trope that's been happening lately of, "If it messes up, reboot it."
I'd prefer Kelvin timeline moves to another reboot (Quinto and especially Urban would be hard to replace) and if not everyone is available/interested, do a spinoff. Or recast the other parts...
This is key, I loved the movie but up until I saw it - a week after release - I was completely ambivalent towards it after the shit first trailer. I saw the first one two or three times in the first week and ID twice.
I do not understand the current focus on each new movie's opening weekend. The trend seems to be, if someone is too busy to pre-book their ticket and join the crush of that first weekend, and then the movie fails to impress with $$$$, the rest of the potential audience probably won't even bother to get to the film until it comes out on Blu-Ray. Because next weekend, it's a different movie vying for opening weekend attention.
Also cineplexes with ten screens, one of which is crowded out, two screens are taking the overflow, and the other seven are running days- and weeks-old films... to vacant chairs.
I exaggerate, but it often feels this is happening.
Also cineplexes with ten screens, one of which is crowded out, two screens are taking the overflow, and the other seven are running days- and weeks-old films... to vacant chairs.
I exaggerate, but it often feels this is happening.
For the most part, the old days of a movie playing for a long time are gone. I was planning on seeing STB again soon and my local cinema is already down to only three screenings per day. Which may sound like plenty, but that's a very fast drop. It'll probably be almost gone altogether within two weeks.
I like Beyond. I honestly can't fathom why people liked it less than the previous one.
Aussie TV is still playing ads for "Beyond"! It's still screening in my local cineplex (5 x day), and more times scheduled than "Ghostbusters" (4 x day) but less than "Jason Bourne" (8 x day) or "Suicide Squad" (12 x day).
There's your answer.
That makes it even more incomprehensible. I'd really like to know what people didn't like in that movie.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2016/08/07/box-office-suicide-squad-nine-lives/88279758/
26% on Rotten Tomatoes and it blew Beyond's box-office numbers out of the water.
Showbiz is strange sometimes.
26% on Rotten Tomatoes and it blew Beyond's box-office numbers out of the water.
Showbiz is strange sometimes.
Better marketing. While I enjoyed Suicide Squad, it'll be interesting to see if it has any kind of legs.
There's a lot wrong with Suicide Squad, but I'd rather watch that again than Beyond.
Over in the things you like and dislike about the new movies thread I had Urban, Quinto, the music and that they don't look cheap in my positives.
The rest of the cast, plot weakness, plot holes, over reliance on action, starship design etc. were all negatives.
I don't think I'm the target audience. I'm coming to the conclusion I may only be going to see them because they've got Star Trek in the title...
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Weekend Box Office numbers are in and Beyond came in 5th with $10 million :S. Bourne is basically copying Beyond's box office patterns but Bourne was made on a $120 million budget and will break even.
Both are likely well represented by geriatric ticket buyers.
I honestly think that there's nothing to really worry about as far as Trek on the big screen goes. We're only in week 2 of the movie and, to my knowledge, there's nothing really big coming out after Suicide Squad, so Trek might not get shoved out of theaters yet.
Paramount only has very few active franchises that they can rely on, and since they only have the movie rights they have no choice but to make Trek a thing for them. Which I suppose is strange that they were so coy with the handling of BEYOND's marketing. They really dropped the ball on this. The way to move forward is either keep making the same big budget films but market it better and with more confidence, or go the WRATH OF KHAN route of dialing back on the budget to make it more profitable with realistic expectations of how it will gross overall. These flicks have barely made it past the half-way billion dollar barrier that other franchise make look like a walk in a park.
$135 million is VERY good to be certain; but again, I have to wonder if Warner's and DC are STILL disappointed in that earlier (just two weeks ago), entertainment industry pundits were saying Suicide Squad could open at $145 - $160 million domestically; and even with the $135 million it received, here's another big budget DC superhero outing that WON'T break the 1 billion dollar worldwide box office ceiling.
Again, that film is definitely going to make a profit, don't get me wrong; but I'm sure WB and DC are still looking for something the critics and audiences really like - like a number of the Marvel Studios outings that have both had good critic and fan reviews and brought in over 1 Billion+ box office worldwide (and gotten good pay channel and subscription channel play at that stage too.)
STB overall is a well reviewed film. That might help it recoup more when it gets to the Pay and Subscription Movie Channel phase of it's revenue generation for Paramount. Time will tell.
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