Why did TOS:R recreate crappy effects?
- Thread starter WarpFactorZ
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I could never understand how the effects here were for the most part bad while those in Star Trek: Continues were fantastic I thought!
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- Low budget.
- Questionable priorities towards where the limited resources should be spent.
- Not having an experienced VFX supervisor, so a lot of really boneheaded 1st year film school mistakes were made in the shot compositions, basic directional continuity, rendering and animation. Mike Okuda's a great guy, but he doesn't appears to have had the practical know-how on this aspect of production.
Nah. The next time TOS will be redone to match the trainwreck that is Discovery.
Because it SHOULD have faithfully reproduced the '60s effects rather than trying to improve them. It SHOULD have been the equivalent of what the Smithsonian did to the Enterprise model. Star Trek need to be appreciated for what it is, not what we want it to be.
As for those "crappy 60s FX" they were pretty expensive for the time and are a testament to the ingenuity and creativity of the production team. I'd hate to see their hard work lost just becasue some Millennials want 'muh greeblies!
I'd be in favor of this. I really don't understand the apparent opposition to the modified versions. The old versions still exist, we can still watch them. This isn't a Star Wars situation where the studio refuses to make the original versions available (and even that is probably about to change, and with fan restoration efforts, really already has if you're not picky about where you get it from).
If they want to rewrite history, then they need to call it what it is, a reboot.
Well, yes. Or something that distinguishes it from unmodified TOS - I don't care if it's "reboot" or "TOS Discofied" or what. As long as unmodified TOS is available, it's no skin off our backs. I don't like Diet Pepsi, and I don't like the idea of modified Doritos with less powder and crunch. I don't care for what Michael Bay did to Transformers. But as long as regular Pepsi and Doritos are available, and I can still watch the older TF series and movie that I like, then I'm fine with the idea that those other products are just not for me.
But the history of cinema and television doesn't necessarily support the "old versions still exist, we can still watch them" idea. Is NetFlix offering the original VFX? Is syndication? No. The de facto standard now is the altered version ergo you have to make an effort to find the originals, which requires physical media of a specific format to get it. It's not a big step from there to the originals effectively disappearing.
No problem as long as the original version is the Official Version and also the canon version. Either that or make the remastered version essentially indistinguishable from the original version.
Who's rewriting history?
When you're changing the entire look of something, you are rewriting its history. I know some folks seem to be okay with it, but it doesn't change what it is.
it isn't re-writing if the originals still exist.
Yeah, it is. The USS Enterprise in-universe is no longer the ship that was designed by Matt Jefferies. Nor is the D-7.
Weird, I'm looking at my TOS DVDs right now, the ship is still the same.
What about the ship on Discovery, is the ship still the same? The ship that is supposed to be the ship from those TOS DVD's?
Yep.
It really isn't, and it is disingenuous to say that it is.
