The novels also brought back Kirk after Generations, did a better job than was done with Trip..
Oh, and brought back Janeway too (after killing her first).
Why did they kill off Starfleet's first "miracle worker" at the end?
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Oh, and brought back Janeway too (after killing her first).
Oh, and brought back Janeway too (after killing her first).[/QUOTE]
Yeah, killing Janeway off was a big mistake. Glad they brought her back.
Yeah, killing Janeway off was a big mistake. Glad they brought her back.
Do I have to pull a Ramona every time someone uses an acronym I don't know? If anyone's read Beverly Cleary's Ramona the Pest, you should know what I'm talking about; but for the sake of the ones who haven't, there was a chapter where there was some sort of PTA meeting going on; and there was no such thing as telling her that it stood for Parent Teachers Association. Her older sister Beezus finally asked what she was going to do with PTA, and she said she wanted to eat it, and she figured out that they were spelling some kind of food in front of her. If I have to do that, I'll have to say that I want some TATV, OOC, and AFAIK.
According to the comic book store that I've been buying Godzilla comics from, I had been told that Reed was the one who had been killed at the end. Another thing that sort of bothered me about the death of Trip was that McCain from psi phi told me something was going to happen, and it never came to fruition. If he wants to drop me an email at Kanthropian@Hotmail.com, I'll be happy to talk to him about it, since this was either on IM, which I can't do or email through an email address I don't have.
They didn't do a good job about saying who played who on Enterprise; but from what I can remember and a little bit of obvious, I know that Connor Trineer played Trip, Scott Blalock played the captain, Jolene Blalock played T'Pol, and obviously played Hoshi since she was the only other cast member. I noticed a John Billingsley. If he played one of the white crewmembers, was he related to Barbara Billingsley from Leave it to Beaver? Also, was there any kind of positive identification of that astronaut that they showed in the opening prelude to the show with the exception being the two-part off topic episode that took place entirely in that mirror universe? Was that by any chance one of the famous ones like Neil Armstrong, John Glenn, or Buzz Aldrin?
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Um, if I run into "McCain from psi phi" I'll be sure to pass the message.
Not sure why you feel "they" (presumably the producers) failed to communicate the cast listings, can't remember eactly how the closing sequence went off the top of my head but surely a quick check on Wikipedia or IMDB would help but for the record Hoshi was played by Linda Park while John Billingsley played Phlox
Not sure why you feel "they" (presumably the producers) failed to communicate the cast listings, can't remember eactly how the closing sequence went off the top of my head but surely a quick check on Wikipedia or IMDB would help but for the record Hoshi was played by Linda Park while John Billingsley played Phlox
Okay, and John Billingsley does look old enough to be Barbara's son or possibly grandson or something. I guess I didn't word the inquiry right. I knew Hoshi was played by Linda Park because she was the only other female regular. It's strange about her name because there's nothing in it to indicate Asian even though she looks Asian. Was her mom an Asian who married an American or something?
I don't suppose anyone here on this board has seen the gospel group the Mark V quartet. This is more Star Trek related than what it might appear. At first glance it looks like there are five members in the group; but one of them is pretty much just an instrumentalist, which makes it a quartet. Anyway he doesn't sound anything like him, but there's a singer in the group who bears a resemblance to Scott Bakula named Randy. Apparently, he's not familiar enough with Star Trek or Quantum Leap because when I mentioned the resemblance to him, he wasn't familiar with who I was talking about.
There goes one of those annoying acronyms I don't know. I want some IMBD. In other words, what's that?
God bless, Jason Irelan
I don't suppose anyone here on this board has seen the gospel group the Mark V quartet. This is more Star Trek related than what it might appear. At first glance it looks like there are five members in the group; but one of them is pretty much just an instrumentalist, which makes it a quartet. Anyway he doesn't sound anything like him, but there's a singer in the group who bears a resemblance to Scott Bakula named Randy. Apparently, he's not familiar enough with Star Trek or Quantum Leap because when I mentioned the resemblance to him, he wasn't familiar with who I was talking about.
There goes one of those annoying acronyms I don't know. I want some IMBD. In other words, what's that?
God bless, Jason Irelan
Thank you. Speaking of Trip, I don't suppose any of his movies on his list would include any Star Trek ones, would it? That would've been really something if they would've kept him around longer since he was the only one who ran the movie nights; and one of them would've been First Contact so they could've learned more about those cybernetic aliens in my favorite episode, which was Regeneration. If nothing else, they could've maybe learned what to call them since they didn't introduce themselves. They just told Archer they would be assimilated and that resistance was futile.
God bless, Jason Irelan
God bless, Jason Irelan
He wasn't in any movies because they never made Enterprise movies.
God bless, Jason Irelan
I'm a fan of These Are the Voyages, but I hate what they did to trip. I don't have any answer on why 'they' killed Trip in it. But I do hate it how after Spock's death in Wrath of Khan, it's like every series, every movie has to kill off some worthy character, like it's a "tradition."
And in The Search for Spock, it was Kirk's son, which sucked. If this son gets born in the Star Trek that's had its history altered, I hope they don't kill him off again. I know Kirk's son wasn't really one of the major characters, but he was a big deal to Kirk.
Does the lack of a response to my inquiry about whether or not John Billingsley is related to Barbara Billingsley mean nobody knows? I wish the actor himself would post and answer that question for me. The ethics of his race were questionable when they believed in having several spouses, but he is a pretty wholesome character. Although even though the law in the United States says we're only allowed one spouse, in the Bible there were men who followed God and had more than one wife. Jacob even had extra-marital affairs at his favorite wife's wishes because she wanted a child to call her own.
God bless, Jason Irelan
I can only surmise that your Barbara Billingsley question remains unanswered, because you're on the Internet. That is, you can look it up, effortlessly with any search engine. Either way, I tell you true: I don't know to whom John is a relation of. I don't really care for the Phox character and have not done any investigating into any aspect about him.
I, too, felt that the loss of David Marcus hurt the movie franchise. A) He could've appealed to younger audiences. B) As long as he was alive, he gave Jim Kirk greater depth and even broader appeal. But, oh .. the drama! All of that popcorn at stake. And it's even possible that the 2nd bananas felt their convention appearances threatened by these hip kids. I mean, I don't know ... the old bury the young in the STAR TREK Universe and that's just the way it goes.
I, too, felt that the loss of David Marcus hurt the movie franchise. A) He could've appealed to younger audiences. B) As long as he was alive, he gave Jim Kirk greater depth and even broader appeal. But, oh .. the drama! All of that popcorn at stake. And it's even possible that the 2nd bananas felt their convention appearances threatened by these hip kids. I mean, I don't know ... the old bury the young in the STAR TREK Universe and that's just the way it goes.
There seems to have been some idea, in the first two movies, to deliberately add some new blood to the franchise: Decker and Ilia (who were originally intended to be regulars on the aborted new TV series), Saavik and David. But then the Powers That Be seem to have decided that, "screw it, the Trekkies just want to see the Original Cast." That this decision coincided with first Nimoy, then Shatner, taking the directorial reins is surely just a coincidence. 
And, of course, the advent of TNG on television rendered the whole issue moot. There was no need to add any fresh blood to Kirk's crew, because you already had a new crew to carry the franchise forward once Shatner and Co. got too old . ...
And, of course, the advent of TNG on television rendered the whole issue moot. There was no need to add any fresh blood to Kirk's crew, because you already had a new crew to carry the franchise forward once Shatner and Co. got too old . ...
And a bloody ill-conceived direction it is, too! There are moments when STAR TREK seems to acknowledge this, as well: like that time Kirk told Apollo that Humanity's belief in "the one God" is quite sufficient ... or when Uhura observes that the (assumed) sun worshippers aren't worshipping their star ... they're worshipping The Son of Man. But Gene Roddenberry had, indeed, stumbled when he suddenly decided that religion wasn't a part of The Human Condition.
Even in Voyager, when Janeway seeks the spirits of another planet's culture to $ave Kes' life, she walks away from the experience realising that she's basically tried to treat science as her religion, even though she wasn't a 'religious' person, in the traditional sense. Science can fail you, but her faith in it was unshakable ... a true believer. Even in -ENT- Vulcan scientists could not validate that katras were in their receptacles. The belief that they were, the faith that they existed was proved right. Gene Roddenberry had some great ideas for the future. He also had pretty bad ones.
Religion and Money are NOT the root of all evil ... their abuse is! Just like nuclear energy is extremely clean, very safe and useful ... yet used in the wrong way can unleash massive destruction and lingering death. It's all in how you use it, but Roddenberry's own perceptions on Life, with its philosophy of universal tolerance and acceptance had blinded him to the truth of our existence. And, in the end, wasn't any better a system than the already established religious faiths.
Even in Voyager, when Janeway seeks the spirits of another planet's culture to $ave Kes' life, she walks away from the experience realising that she's basically tried to treat science as her religion, even though she wasn't a 'religious' person, in the traditional sense. Science can fail you, but her faith in it was unshakable ... a true believer. Even in -ENT- Vulcan scientists could not validate that katras were in their receptacles. The belief that they were, the faith that they existed was proved right. Gene Roddenberry had some great ideas for the future. He also had pretty bad ones.
Religion and Money are NOT the root of all evil ... their abuse is! Just like nuclear energy is extremely clean, very safe and useful ... yet used in the wrong way can unleash massive destruction and lingering death. It's all in how you use it, but Roddenberry's own perceptions on Life, with its philosophy of universal tolerance and acceptance had blinded him to the truth of our existence. And, in the end, wasn't any better a system than the already established religious faiths.
... Understood and confirmed!
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It is shown that Trip's death is being faked on screen. Right before he is placed in the chamber, after he supposedly stopped breathing, he picks his head up and winks at Archer. Archer then smiles and quickly hides the smile but shares a knowing glance with the doctor.
For me it is clear that Trip did not die, otherwise we can't take these events seriously.
It is shown that Trip's death is being faked on screen. Right before he is placed in the chamber, after he supposedly stopped breathing, he picks his head up and winks at Archer. Archer then smiles and quickly hides the smile but shares a knowing glance with the doctor.
For me it is clear that Trip did not die, otherwise we can't take these events seriously.
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