In regards to Star Trek 5...it is a different barrier. Supposedly this was the center of the Galaxy...so a different barrier for a different reason
Why did Kirk have to go Genesis?
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In regards to Star Trek 5...it is a different barrier. Supposedly this was the center of the Galaxy...so a different barrier for a different reason
Yes I know that and this barrier is bluey white instead of a reddy purple!
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What they needed for the film was something new and unconquered. When Kirk crossed the outer barrier in TOS for the sixth time, his helmsman no longer bothered to call it out...
Using a "barrier" may not have been particularly inspired, but the Great Barrier sounds a tad better than the Galactic Maelstrom or the Big Dark Rift. And it looks surprisingly Great, too, even if not considering the overall VFX quality!
Timo Saloniemi
Using a "barrier" may not have been particularly inspired, but the Great Barrier sounds a tad better than the Galactic Maelstrom or the Big Dark Rift. And it looks surprisingly Great, too, even if not considering the overall VFX quality!
Timo Saloniemi
Isn't that quite an assumption? Assuming that the barrier isn't part of some electromagnetic field or layer that all galaxies are surrounded in.... wouldn't an odd energy barrier at both the outer and (somewhere near the center) be a little coincidental?
Wouldn't it make more sense to have a contigency if the Being got out of the first barrier, to still contain it to the single galaxy? We just happen to be thriving between the two zones. The abilities given by the outer barrier may have been to allow us to fight back if the Being escaped.
The geometries involved are odd anyway, starting with whether a horizontal ribbon can block the passage of a starship in 3D space. We might do well to say that the galaxy is full of barriers or their nooks and crannies, bulges and loops at relatively short distances from Earth. Some block passage rimwards, some corewards, some clockwise, some widdershins. None need exactly be "at" the rim or core even if so stated, and usually the eps don't even state that much...
Just as with the "why Genesis?" issue, the audience here knows less than the heroes. Kirk shared his thoughts with Sarek; he shares "hidden" knowledge here with the rest of Starfleet about the true specs of the Great Barrier. It may be much more local than we think, or much less famous, much less often visited. Perhaps just a minor bump on the road to the galactic center, whilst God is actually imprisoned inside the bump rather than inside the center, and lies to His follower about this, in order to make His jailbreak easier.
Timo Saloniemi
Just as with the "why Genesis?" issue, the audience here knows less than the heroes. Kirk shared his thoughts with Sarek; he shares "hidden" knowledge here with the rest of Starfleet about the true specs of the Great Barrier. It may be much more local than we think, or much less famous, much less often visited. Perhaps just a minor bump on the road to the galactic center, whilst God is actually imprisoned inside the bump rather than inside the center, and lies to His follower about this, in order to make His jailbreak easier.
Timo Saloniemi
This is my headcanon.
He would have basically been Spock reset into his childhood, devoid of all his memories and life experiences. I'm sure he could have been re-educated, but ultimately that would not have really resulted the Spock we knew. I think Katra was a backup copy of memories etc.
As for Saavik, I think they cut the reference for the half-Romulan backstory for a reason; they didn't want it to be included. So in my mind she is a full Vulcan.
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