Why are Vulcan's such dicks?

[Aragorn]

As long as you don't play baseball against them, Vulcans aren't that bad.

 

[Nerys Myk]

You miss my point - No matter what "past" they had - Vulcans don't kiss in public. Spock is a human in this movie - just a conflicted one.

Says who? I dont recall any episode stating this.

Vulcans do some crazy things when "emotionally compromised,"

 

[erebus]

This sure is a stereotypical and unnecessarily vulgar-phrased question. What about star trek's celebration of diversity and individualism?

None of us are beyond reproach y'know.

 

[Sci]

One of the big complaints about Enterprise was that its Vulcans didn't seem very logical. They kinda just acted like arrogant assholes to everyone who disagreed with them.

And this makes them different from other Vulcans throughout Trek... how, exactly?

Sarek refused to speak to his son for almost twenty years because he dared to join Starfleet instead of attend the Vulcan Science Academy. Vulcans being dicks is something that goes all the way back to TOS.

It seems like the Vulcans in this film are afflicted with the same problem (except for Sarek, thankfully). For example, where is the logic in those bullies taunting young Spock and trying to get an emotional reaction from him?

I don't know. You'd have to ask D.C. Fontana, who first established that Spock was constantly taunted by his peers as a child in "Journey to Babel."

I also thought that Spock, even when he was seriously trying to come across as unemotional, would just kinda snap at people. "Out of the chair," comes instantly to mind.

I thought that that line was perfect -- calm yet stern. You're misreading an attempt to communicate seriousness with actual emotion. It's no different than Leonard Nimoy raising his voice on TOS.

You miss my point - No matter what "past" they had - Vulcans don't kiss in public.

Unless, of course, they are undergoing an existential crisis and re-considering their value systems in the wake of the extreme trauma of the murder of their parents, loss of their entire world, and near-extinction of their species.

Then it seems reasonable to conclude that even the most stoic of Vulcans, facing imminent death in an attempt to stop the war criminal who committed the above atrocities, might break his or her own rules and display affection to a loved one they do not know they will ever see again.

 

[erebus]

Scientists have always been pawns of the monetary.

 

[Greg Cox]

One of the big complaints about Enterprise was that its Vulcans didn't seem very logical. They kinda just acted like arrogant assholes to everyone who disagreed with them.

And this makes them different from other Vulcans throughout Trek... how, exactly?

Sarek refused to speak to his son for almost twenty years because he dared to join Starfleet instead of attend the Vulcan Science Academy. Vulcans being dicks is something that goes all the way back to TOS.

Don't forget T'Pring, who almost got Kirk killed just to get out of her engagement with Spock in "Amok Time." And Stonn who was party to the whole conspiracy.

Or Valeris who betrayed Starfleet in TUC.