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Who's the Protagonist in the Pilot?

Who's the protagonist in the pilot?

  • Janeway

    Votes: 3 33.3%
  • Paris

    Votes: 4 44.4%
  • Other (Explain)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • None (Explain)

    Votes: 2 22.2%

  • Total voters
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Odo

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Just started rewatching Voyager, and it occurred to me that Paris is at least as much focused on in Caretaker as Janeway is herself. He's the one with the character arc and growth in the pilot, and so is arguably more of the story's protagonist in that first episode.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
 
I don't think there is a single protagonist, since the goal is to establish an ensemble cast. Paris is just the viewpoint character through whom we get to know that ensemble. Sort of like how, say, in the first X-Men movie, we become acquainted with the team as a whole through the perspective of Wolverine and Rogue.

A viewpoint character isn't necessarily a protagonist; for instance, Dr. Watson is the viewpoint character in Sherlock Holmes stories, and the companions are often the viewpoint characters in Doctor Who.
 
If we're picking one person I think it's hard to argue against Paris - we meet him early on, he's down on his luck in prison, we're introduced to Voyager through his eyes as it were, he goes through this redemption arc, looks after Harry, saves Chakotay, ends the episode back in uniform assigned to CONN.
 
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If we're picking one person I think it's hard to argue against Paris - we meet him early on, he's down on his luck in prison, we're introduced to Voyager through his eyes as it were, he goes through this redemption arc, looks after Harry, saves Chakotay, ends the episode back in uniform assigned to CONN.

I'm not so sure. I just skimmed over the transcript, and yeah, Paris is the POV character in the early part of the episode and then has his moment of redemption at the end, but in between he doesn't have that much dialogue or action. He has about half as many lines as Janeway, though more than anyone else. And he's more reactive than proactive. Janeway talks him into joining the mission. Harry's the one who catalyzes their friendship by reaching out to him, making him want to respond in kind. And Chakotay basically guilts Tom into wanting to make amends for betraying him.

Technically (as David Mack explained it to me once), the strict definition of "protagonist" is the character whose actions catalyze the story. The protagonist is the one whose efforts to achieve something set the story in motion, and the antagonist is the one who tries to prevent them from achieving it. (Which means that often the hero of the story is not the protagonist in the strict sense; for instance, in your typical superhero story, the villain is often the protagonist, the one trying to achieve an act of violence or revenge or conquest, and the hero is the one trying to stop them and is thus technically the antagonist.) So a reactive character like Paris doesn't really qualify. In the case of "Caretaker," I'd say Janeway is the protagonist, because she catalyzes events by pursuing Chakotay's ship, and then by trying to escape the Caretaker, and then by choosing to destroy the Caretaker's array. Though you could say that most of the characters are protagonists of their own subplots, since they're all trying to achieve different things -- Chakotay and Torres want to escape, Paris wants to redeem himself, Kim wants to prove himself, Neelix wants to save Kes, Kes wants to discover the universe.
 
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I'm not so sure. I just skimmed over the transcript, and yeah, Paris is the POV character in the early part of the episode and then has his moment of redemption at the end, but in between he doesn't have that much dialogue or action. He has about half as many lines as Janeway, though more than anyone else. And he's more reactive than proactive. Janeway talks him into joining the mission. Harry's the one who catalyzes their friendship by reaching out to him, making him want to respond in kind. And Chakotay basically guilts Tom into wanting to make amends for betraying him.

Technically (as David Mack explained it to me once), the strict definition of "protagonist" is the character whose actions catalyze the story. The protagonist is the one whose efforts to achieve something set the story in motion, and the antagonist is the one who tries to prevent them from achieving it. (Which means that often the hero of the story is not the protagonist in the strict sense; for instance, in your typical superhero story, the villain is often the protagonist, the one trying to achieve an act of violence or revenge or conquest, and the hero is the one trying to stop them and is thus technically the antagonist.) So a reactive character like Paris doesn't really qualify. In the case of "Caretaker," I'd say Janeway is the protagonist, because she catalyzes events by pursuing Chakotay's ship, and then by trying to escape the Caretaker, and then by choosing to destroy the Caretaker's array. Though you could say that most of the characters are protagonists of their own subplots, since they're all trying to achieve different things -- Chakotay and Torres want to escape, Paris wants to redeem himself, Kim wants to prove himself, Neelix wants to save Kes, Kes wants to discover the universe.

Under that strict technical definition, I almost find myself thinking that the Caretaker himself is the protagonist and Janeway the antagonist.
 
Of course Paris is the protagonist! If anything I've gotten more sure of it since my first post! :lol:

Goes from a convict doing futuristic welding in a prison camp to helmsman of a brand new starship within the space of the episode, eats some humble pie, begins to make amends for his crimes, gets promoted over Harry straight out of the gate!

Absolutely BODIES a beloved DS9 character within the first 15 minutes. Argues with a replicator about soup. Has some questionable banter with Chakotay about his life belonging to him and whether or not Chakotay can turn into a bird.

It's 100% a Paris episode! :lol:
 
Under that strict technical definition, I almost find myself thinking that the Caretaker himself is the protagonist and Janeway the antagonist.

I don't know... The Caretaker's actions do catalyze elements of the plot, but Voyager would never have gotten involved with him if Janeway hadn't led the pursuit of Chakotay. And when Janeway learns the truth, she tries to help the Caretaker protect the Ocampa rather than impede him. So the Caretaker can be considered a protagonist (a story can have more than one), but Janeway isn't an antagonist. She isn't trying to stop his goal so much as pursuing her own goals despite his goal getting in her way.


Of course Paris is the protagonist! If anything I've gotten more sure of it since my first post! :lol:

Goes from a convict doing futuristic welding in a prison camp to helmsman of a brand new starship within the space of the episode, eats some humble pie, begins to make amends for his crimes, gets promoted over Harry straight out of the gate!

Absolutely BODIES a beloved DS9 character within the first 15 minutes. Argues with a replicator about soup. Has some questionable banter with Chakotay about his life belonging to him and whether or not Chakotay can turn into a bird.

It's 100% a Paris episode! :lol:

As I said, I'd agree that about the first half, but then Paris fades into the background for much of the rest, not having much to say or do again until the climax. The story has multiple protagonists, being the setup for an ensemble series, but Janeway is the most prominent protagonist and Paris is second.
 
Just started rewatching Voyager, and it occurred to me that Paris is at least as much focused on in Caretaker as Janeway is herself. He's the one with the character arc and growth in the pilot, and so is arguably more of the story's protagonist in that first episode.

If we're talking character arc and growth, Janeway is rarely the protagonist, she's a fairly static character overall. Not Kate Mulgrew's fault, she'd have knocked it out of the park no matter what the writers asked of her.
 
If we're talking character arc and growth, Janeway is rarely the protagonist, she's a fairly static character overall. Not Kate Mulgrew's fault, she'd have knocked it out of the park no matter what the writers asked of her.

Unfortunately, UPN wanted an episodic show, so few of the characters got to have much development or growth that wasn't reset at the end of the episode. And most of the arcs the characters had were wrapped up by the third season. In the last four years of the series, the only characters who really had any growth were Seven, the Doctor, and Paris and Torres with their romance.
 
I mean Paris had a lot of growth in just the pilot episode, but that's to be expected what with him being the protagonist and all... :)
 
Look at Sisko on DS9. He goes from:
Grieving widower to single father to lover to husband.
Father of a teen to father of a young man... and then father again.
Station commander to commander of a battle fleet.
Non-believer to skeptic to believer.

Can you imagine what they could have done with Janeway, given the situation she was in, and the caliber of actress they had playing her?

For that matter, look at Nog. A troublesome juvenile delinquent and member of Quark's waitstaff. He takes a hard right turn in his story arc, and becomes the first Ferengi in Starfleet, he goes to war, and suffers its horrors. At the end, he's almost unrecognizable compared to who he was. Can you imagine if Harry Kim had gotten similar treatment?
 
For that matter, look at Nog. A troublesome juvenile delinquent and member of Quark's waitstaff. He takes a hard right turn in his story arc, and becomes the first Ferengi in Starfleet, he goes to war, and suffers its horrors. At the end, he's almost unrecognizable compared to who he was.
Absolutely. Nog and Rom are both shining examples of what can be achieved with a bit of effort. As you've said they're unrecognisable by What You Leave Behind compared to their introduction in Emissary.

That's probably true of the Deep Space Nine characters in general versus the Voyager characters - the two approaches by the different production/writing staff are like comparing apples and oranges.

Is Harry Kim in Endgame different in any meaningful way compared to how he was portrayed in Caretaker?
 
Is Harry Kim in Endgame different in any meaningful way compared to how he was portrayed in Caretaker?

I'd say so, yes. In "Caretaker," he's inexperienced, unsure of himself, and eager to please. By season 7, he's a veteran officer with command experience under his belt, he's comfortable with who he is, and he's the one who makes that great speech in "Endgame" about how it doesn't matter if they get home because Voyager has become their home and they have each other. ...Which the episode then throws out the window by having Captain Janeway arbitrarily abandon her morals and carry out Admiral Janeway's insane plan anyway, but that's not Harry's fault.
 
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