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Whoopi Goldberg wants to appear on Doctor Who

Yup...but one that will never happen.

If the BBC wouldn't let Tom Baker and Gareth Thomas their suggested passerby cameo on either of their shows, no way an American show, no matter how popular, will crossover with Doctor Who.

Comics and other places are one thing, but the main show is a whole other ball of wax.
 
If the BBC wouldn't let Tom Baker and Gareth Thomas their suggested passerby cameo on either of their shows, no way an American show, no matter how popular, will crossover with Doctor Who.

Comics and other places are one thing, but the main show is a whole other ball of wax.

RTD considered an Enterprise crossover in 2004, but UPN cancelling the show saved him from having Julie Gardner talk to Rick Berman about it. Eccleston and Bakula chewing scenery together would have been awesome. :)

I've been saying this for ten years, and i wanted it for longer -- I really want to see Richard Belzer, dressed up as Munch, on Doctor Who. Just a quick, incongruous little cameo. :)
 
RTD considered an Enterprise crossover in 2004, but UPN cancelling the show saved him from having Julie Gardner talk to Rick Berman about it. Eccleston and Bakula chewing scenery together would have been awesome. :)
Was this something that the BBC okayed or was this something Davies was considering on his own?

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see a Doctor Who/Star Trek crossover but it seems to me that the BBC would never allow it.

I've been saying this for ten years, and i wanted it for longer -- I really want to see Richard Belzer, dressed up as Munch, on Doctor Who. Just a quick, incongruous little cameo. :)
That would be amazing. He's already in one science-fiction world. :D
 
If the BBC wouldn't let Tom Baker and Gareth Thomas their suggested passerby cameo on either of their shows, no way an American show, no matter how popular, will crossover with Doctor Who.

I'm not sure what the Doctor would have made of Roj Blake especially with his approach towards things at the later stages (willing to destroy Star One for example) though his attempts to bring down an oppressive regime would have been supported.

or a meeting between the Doctor and Avon.
 
Was this something that the BBC okayed or was this something Davies was considering on his own?

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see a Doctor Who/Star Trek crossover but it seems to me that the BBC would never allow it.

He's talked about it in interviews. This was from 2009:

I would have loved to have done a Star Trek crossover. The very first year, we talked about it. Then Star Trek finally went off air. Landing the Tardis on board the Enterprise would have been magnificent. Can you imagine what their script department would have wanted, and what I would have wanted? It would have been the biggest battle.

I don't know if his "we" means him, Collinson, and Gardner, or if it means that trio and the BBC.

It would have gone where "Boomtown" went in the first season.

That would be amazing. He's already in one science-fiction world. :D

You can never have too much Munch. I even wanted Belzer to play a Munch ancestor in Copper!
 
Really?

Did they give a reason?
I don't remember the reasoning, but it's probably due to the fact that Blake's 7 was far less family friendly than Doctor Who. Per this Digital Spy article, Thomas said the BBC had no sense of humor. Which, yeah, that tracks.

I'm not sure what the Doctor would have made of Roj Blake especially with his approach towards things at the later stages (willing to destroy Star One for example) though his attempts to bring down an oppressive regime would have been supported.

or a meeting between the Doctor and Avon.
The Baker/Thomas idea was they would cross paths, exchange pleasantries, and then go on their merry way. I guess it depends on The Fourth Doctor knew Blake. Besides, The Doctor wasn't against revolutionaries. Hell, he helped inspired more than his fair share. The Sun Makers comes to mind and not just because of Michael Keating (as the very exact opposite of Vila).

He's talked about it in interviews. This was from 2009:

I don't know if his "we" means him, Collinson, and Gardner, or if it means that trio and the BBC.

It would have gone where "Boomtown" went in the first season.
Thanks for the info. Sounds like it was rather offhand discussion that was never seriously considered. But, like you said, it depends on who the "we" are.

You can never have too much Munch. I even wanted Belzer to play a Munch ancestor in Copper!
Indeed not! :D

I only saw one episode of Copper (couldn't get into it despite Franka Potente being in it), but that would've been a great cameo!
 
I only saw one episode of Copper (couldn't get into it despite Franka Potente being in it), but that would've been a great cameo!

What I thought Copper was going to be and what Copper actually was were so incredibly divergent that I don't know if I had a mistaken impression of the series or if BBC America badly mismarketed it. I went into the series expecting "Homicide: Life on the Streets 1864," and while there's a bit of that in there, it's more cultural history. Basically, I wanted more Ripper Street (which actually came after Copper, IIRC) than Gangs of New York, though I liked Copper for what it was.
 
Besides, The Doctor wasn't against revolutionaries. Hell, he helped inspired more than his fair share. The Sun Makers comes to mind and not just because of Michael Keating (as the very exact opposite of Vila).

No the Doctor wasn't against revolutionaries I'm not sure he alway approved of their measures though and prefers it to happen with as little violence as possible and not by something that could have a disastrous impact across a galaxy.

And I belive it was Michael Keating's role in The Sun Makers that lead to him being cast in B7
 
According to The Writer's Tale, RTD held onto the basic storyline of the Star Trek crossover as a possible idea for a Tennant episode, though rather than it actually being a crossover with Star Trek, it would involve the Doctor arriving on a starship that totally resembles but is legally distinct from a Starfleet starship. It would have involved the Doctor being mistrustful of an "obviously military outfit claiming to be peaceful explorers."
 
What I thought Copper was going to be and what Copper actually was were so incredibly divergent that I don't know if I had a mistaken impression of the series or if BBC America badly mismarketed it. I went into the series expecting "Homicide: Life on the Streets 1864," and while there's a bit of that in there, it's more cultural history. Basically, I wanted more Ripper Street (which actually came after Copper, IIRC) than Gangs of New York, though I liked Copper for what it was.
Yeah, I checked out Cooper and Ripper Street about the same time and wasn't impressed by either.

No the Doctor wasn't against revolutionaries I'm not sure he alway approved of their measures though and prefers it to happen with as little violence as possible and not by something that could have a disastrous impact across a galaxy.
All very true, but I don't think either Baker or Thomas really put much thought into any of that. They just wanted to have a fun cameo and it was nixed.

And I believe it was Michael Keating's role in The Sun Makers that lead to him being cast in B7
Yeah, I believe that's correct.

According to The Writer's Tale, RTD held onto the basic storyline of the Star Trek crossover as a possible idea for a Tennant episode, though rather than it actually being a crossover with Star Trek, it would involve the Doctor arriving on a starship that totally resembles but is legally distinct from a Starfleet starship. It would have involved the Doctor being mistrustful of an "obviously military outfit claiming to be peaceful explorers."
So...A Christmas Carol. ;) :D

(Okay, okay, not that last part)
 
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The more I think about it, the more I'm on board with Whoopi actually playing the Doctor.

Hell, for all we know, Guinan herself IS the Doctor!
 
Well, RTD's idea was a bit more directly a Star Trek pastiche. It would have included a Forehead Alien bridge officer, which was missing from A Christmas Carol.
Yeah, I figured there was a little more to it than that, but I couldn't resist bringing up the obvious allusion in A Christmas Carol.
 
When, some time ago, so many Americans were bitching about no US doctor or women, I was going to write a pilot for a US network show. It was going to feature a woman archaeologist (before River Song, I add), trapped in a machine she can't control, that appears only as a door in a wall (out of phase or similar). At the end of the season she dies, but has a box strapped to her arm that acts as an external drive can for a PC, boots up her body, gets her back to the ship, where a machine regenerates her, using her own body and DNA, but she's different. I saw Alison Janny as the first one, Whoopi could be second.

There was a great comic called Ensign Sue Must Die!, laden with brilliant easter eggs all the way through (Old Spock's reaction on page one is priceless!!) Below is a link to Part One. There are two more parts, and in the second, someone appears. Can't find the full thing hut here's a page from DeviantArt:
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Then a certain blue box appears as the multiverse shatters. It's primarily 10, but at the end, there's a blonde female Doctor, years before Jodie came along.
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Full part one:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=44732
 
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I don't think Whoopi understands the enormous time commitment required to film a BBC serial.

Whereas and American production will shoot an episode in a week or two, doing the same for the BBC takes something like seven and a half years...
 
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