who the fff... put Troi in that outfit??

[Dal Rassak]

Now THAT I wouldn't have minded at all...!

 

[asp7485]

Geordi has his VISOR, etc.

I always thought it would have been cool if we saw another random character who wore a VISOR at some point. It also would've been fun to see another character in the Troi catsuit.

 

[t_smitts]

there's a part of me that kinda wishes they hadn't given her officer rank and put her in a uniform in the pilot episode in the first place. That was the mistake

Troi in a miniskirt is NEVER a mistake.

I second this, 110% Would've been the best of worlds, being clearly a Starfleet uniform, while cover that sex appeal quota. (Ditch the perm, though).

I remember it didn't really bother me much when the show was new. It was noticeable of course, but it just seemed that Picard had offered leeway on his bridge, Wesley's stupid gray 'acting' ensign jumpsuit, Beverly ambling about in an ugly green lab coat, Worf wrapped in a tank tread, & Picard himself experimenting with different fashions, the most laughable of which was his puffy vinyl shoulder pads

Lest we forget, Troi spent most of season one in a gray jumpsuit & an updo. It was far less casual looking than the maroon & lavender suits, but ugly as hell. Heck sometimes you'd see her on the bridge in the teal dress with the oblong neckline

That's why it always struck me as pure hypocrisy for Riker to reprimand Ro for wearing an earring like a stodgy douchebag

I remember watching that scene & thinking "Dress code? On that ship? Are you shitting me?"

It does annoy me a bit in hindsight, but that has more to do with the fact that it became a meme with every Trek show to follow, that the bridge crew had to have someone without a standard Starfleet uniform. That's when it really became ridiculous

They never did explain why Worf's allowed to wear that baldric, did they?

Putting Troi in a standard uniform was a good move. The miniskirt and jumpsuits weren't flattering. The dress was better for her build but was inappropriate for bridge duty.

Miniskirt not flattering? What show were YOU watching???

Roddenberry originally wanted to Deanna to have three breasts, and he had to be convinced that it was a stupid idea. We dodged a bullet!

No

We lost the best idea ever.

Check out Total Recall if that's your thing.

From a TV context, it would have looked boring with everyone in the same costume. Only Picard & Riker wore a 'standard' without some accessories. Data was yellow, Geordi has his VISOR, etc. Even that changed with Picard's 'casual wear'. What struck me as funny was when I met Marina Sirtis in person at a convention during TNG's run, it was obvious that the costume was actually not flattering to her. It was a rare case of seeing a TV actor in person and going "Wow! They are so much better looking than on the show!" And she didn't look bad in any of those silly wardrobe choices.

But it is fun to create a reason why, isn't it. And yeah, Riker was the 3rd boob.

Geordi's VISOR isn't an "acessory". That's like calling a wheelchair or a cochlear implant an "accessory".

Calling Data's yellow skin an "accessory" is even more ridiculous.

Tasha didn't have anything, BTW. And it does make sense for a doctor to have some sort of lab coat.

 

[Mojochi]

What the hell is a "nonstandard uniform"?

Possibly the opposite of a standard uniform. One can assume that since it was necessary to put the word "Standard" in front of the word "Uniform" that alternatives might exist, or he could have just said "I'd appreciate it if you'd wear a uniform while on duty"

 

[Captrek]

there's a part of me that kinda wishes they hadn't given her officer rank and put her in a uniform in the pilot episode in the first place. That was the mistake

Troi in a miniskirt is NEVER a mistake.

Personally, I’m more taken with the plunging neckline in the remainder of S1 than the miniskirt in the pilot. As it is said, different strokes for different folks.

I remember it didn't really bother me much when the show was new. It was noticeable of course, but it just seemed that Picard had offered leeway on his bridge, Wesley's stupid gray 'acting' ensign jumpsuit, Beverly ambling about in an ugly green lab coat, Worf wrapped in a tank tread, & Picard himself experimenting with different fashions, the most laughable of which was his puffy vinyl shoulder pads

Wesley’s gray jumpsuit of S2-S3 is rather attractive, IMO. It’s the rainbow sweater of S1 that really looks stupid.

Lest we forget, Troi spent most of season one in a gray jumpsuit & an updo. It was far less casual looking than the maroon & lavender suits, but ugly as hell.

“Ugly as hell”? I love Marina Sirtis in that outfit!

Roddenberry originally wanted to Deanna to have three breasts, and he had to be convinced that it was a stupid idea. We dodged a bullet!

I'm surprised he didn't recycle the dual belly-buttons from Genesis II.

(The same way he lifted Data from The Questor Tapes and repurposed Decker and Ilia as Riker and Troi.)

I think Data was also inspired in large part by Xon from Star Trek: Phase II.

A non-uniform uniform.

So...clothes.

I like to think of a non-uniform uniform being a lack of clothes.

Now THAT I wouldn't have minded at all...!

Roddenberry was a man before his time. If he were living today and creating a series for Showtime or Starz, I’m sure we’d be treated to lots of boobies and merkins.

 

[Mojochi]

“Ugly as hell”? I love Marina Sirtis in that outfit!

Blech! An outfit so drab, flat, & awkwardly tailored that they had to throw on a cummerbund that pointed to her crotch, just to keep her from blending into the scenery

Looks like she should be painting bathrooms on a Romulan space station

And those were the best examples I could find of it. The rest were like gray blurs

 

[Squiggy]

They never did explain why Worf's allowed to wear that baldric, did they?

No, and when Ens. Ro beamed on board Riker read her the riot act about recognizing uniform regulations and made her remove her [religious] ear ring.

All while Worf was wearing his warrior sash and Troi was mincing about the bridge in her robe.

 

[t_smitts]

See, now if they'd just kept Troi in that "Encounter at Farpoint" outfit (or some mini-skirt equivalent from season 3 on), we'd all be happy.

 

[Mojochi]

Actually, she needed a better fitting than the S1 skant. That S7 skant was waaaaay more flattering on her

I really could have tolerated her wearing that S7 one the whole time, probably not Tasha or Ro, but a counselor... maybe

 

[t_smitts]

Actually, she needed a better fitting than the S1 skant. That S7 skant was waaaaay more flattering on her

I really could have tolerated her wearing that S7 one the whole time, probably not Tasha or Ro, but a counselor... maybe

Well pilots are all about figuring out what works and what doesn't. I'm sure any decent wardrobe person could fixed that skant for future episodes. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

They never did explain why Worf's allowed to wear that baldric, did they?

No, and when Ens. Ro beamed on board Riker read her the riot act about recognizing uniform regulations and made her remove her [religious] ear ring.

All while Worf was wearing his warrior sash and Troi was mincing about the bridge in her robe.

I always did think there was some double standards when it came to Worf and his baldric--what made him so special that he got to wear it on duty?

 

[marksound]

They never did explain why Worf's allowed to wear that baldric, did they?

No, and when Ens. Ro beamed on board Riker read her the riot act about recognizing uniform regulations and made her remove her [religious] ear ring.

All while Worf was wearing his warrior sash and Troi was mincing about the bridge in her robe.

They never did explain why Worf's allowed to wear that baldric, did they?

No, and when Ens. Ro beamed on board Riker read her the riot act about recognizing uniform regulations and made her remove her [religious] ear ring.

All while Worf was wearing his warrior sash and Troi was mincing about the bridge in her robe.

I always did think there was some double standards when it came to Worf and his baldric--what made him so special that he got to wear it on duty?

I'm thinking it wasn't so much about the earring than about discipline. Remember, Ro hadn't exactly been a model officer.

 

[Riker's Libido]

What is a councillor doing wearing a lilac bodysuitall the time? I mean she's meant to be a Starfleet officer, isn't she, and I suppose councillor falls under medical officer,so why doesn't she wear the uniform?
It's only near the end of season 6, after the brief tenure on the Enterprise of Captain Jellico, who insisted she dress more formally, that she did wear the uniform and it suited her much better. But for practically the entire run of the series (barring the odd attractive evening gown) she goes round in this ridiculous number that you might wear doing yoga down the gym. Plus the front was cut so low you'd be in danger of dropping your eyes down her cleavage. How's any normal male meant to take psychological advice from anyone dressed like that? How would you ever concentrate?? What I'm saying is it seems unprofessional.

She's hot. I have never thought about it past that.

I can't stand it when she starts wearing the official uniform.

 

[Riker's Libido]

Actually, she needed a better fitting than the S1 skant. That S7 skant was waaaaay more flattering on her

I really could have tolerated her wearing that S7 one the whole time, probably not Tasha or Ro, but a counselor... maybe

Well pilots are all about figuring out what works and what doesn't. I'm sure any decent wardrobe person could fixed that skant for future episodes. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Easy access for Pimpdaddy Riker. Bam, time to get some turboshaft in the turbolift.

 

[Mojochi]

I'm thinking it wasn't so much about the earring than about discipline. Remember, Ro hadn't exactly been a model officer.

Of course. Riker dodn't like her & decided to flex some douchebag muscles, even though it's obvious it was posturing & not strict code aboard their ship

I only wish I could have seen the air get let out of his balloon, when Picard joked with her about it at the end

 

[Sephiroth]

They never did explain why Worf's allowed to wear that baldric, did they?

No, and when Ens. Ro beamed on board Riker read her the riot act about recognizing uniform regulations and made her remove her [religious] ear ring.

All while Worf was wearing his warrior sash and Troi was mincing about the bridge in her robe.

I always did think there was some double standards when it came to Worf and his baldric--what made him so special that he got to wear it on duty?

Droids don't tear your arms out of their sockets when they loose...

 

[mos6507]

Geordi has his VISOR, etc.

I always thought it would have been cool if we saw another random character who wore a VISOR at some point. It also would've been fun to see another character in the Troi catsuit.

Yes. He couldn't have been the only one. It would have made a good episode. Also, in games like STO it's established that 7 of 9 is not the only liberated Borg. Well, technically, Picard is, but he had no real lasting effects besides a hot-temper whenever they come around. It would have been interesting to see OTHER liberated Borg and how they cope.

 

[Dream]

It would have been interesting to see OTHER liberated Borg and how they cope.

Didn't the VOY writers already do that with the liberated Borg children on that show?

 

[Mojochi]

Geordi has his VISOR, etc.

I always thought it would have been cool if we saw another random character who wore a VISOR at some point.

Yes. He couldn't have been the only one. It would have made a good episode.

It's possible he's one of the few still using it though. They come to him almost from the beginning & tried to convince him to get ocular implants, but he wouldn't. I'd think that makes him rather rare. Most folks would want the new eyes... maybe

 

[SoM]

I've heard it said that the costume actually makes professional sense. Putting Deanna in an outfit where her rank isn't thrust in the face of her patients. If they were contstantly being reminded (by the uniform and rank pips) that they're being asked to 'fess to a woman who is their Commander as well as their counsellor, a junior officer might be less willing to go to her with their troubles.

Personally, there's a part of me that kinda wishes they hadn't given her officer rank and put her in a uniform in the pilot episode in the first place. That was the mistake, if anything. The character might have been better served if the implication was of her being essentially an outside civilian in a high position. Of course, it would be hard to accentuate her importance in the ship's hierarchy without showing her rank...

Well, that would be one thing if she spent most of a day in her office, the way Dr Crusher was usually in sickbay while on duty or Geordi (S2-on) was in Engineering. But her main place was right in the centre of the Bridge!

Captain Jellico would disagree with you.

Jellico said "Standard" uniform. It is possible that her outfit could have been a set of professional attire classified as a nonstandard uniform. No way of knowing that

What the hell is a "nonstandard uniform"?

Anything in the Starfleet handbook as acceptable for certain roles/functions/etc only. Scotty in TWoK wears a non-standard uniform in Engineering, for instance. Dress uniforms (already mentioned) are another good example.