Who should be the antagonist for season 2?
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they just need to rework how they do bridge scenes.
It's always like being in someone's living room with everything and everyone pointed at the tv.
They should take a cue from some of the better submarine films. Interaction and action can happen on a bridge, just need to rethink things a little.
The AI thing is an interesting point but the audience watching wouldn't latch onto it. It may be a future sci fi show, but it's a modern audience, I'm willing to bet they'll want and or need some bridge interaction.
But yes, more away missions and adventure stuff.
I often agree with much of what you write but to me the bridge is where some of the greatest tension develops. Where the enemy or anomaly is shown on the view screen. Where the Captain steadies him or herself in her chair, where the command comes from, where 'set the course', 'fire', 'Time's up' comes from. Where key players exchange knowing looks! It's the eyes of the drama.
*starts rummaging through unused concept art from prior Treks, trying to guess which one they'll use this time*
Then again, modern audiences are slowly buying cars that do their own parking, and soon do all their own driving.
I would have preferred a new alien race as the antagonist, instead of rehashing old ones... poorly.
But realistically, they'll probably make the villain someone with emotional ties to one of the heroes.
It could be the race that preyed on the Kelpians, or Burnham's father. Something like that.
But realistically, they'll probably make the villain someone with emotional ties to one of the heroes.
It could be the race that preyed on the Kelpians, or Burnham's father. Something like that.
I agree with the others who've said that the Tholians might be worth exploring in season 2. They've been barely used in the franchise, overall, and are worth developing. I'm also intrigued by the idea of utilizing the the race(s) that use(s) Kelpiens as cattle, though I imagine we might learn more about them in the next Discovery novel.
More episodic/Planet of the Week episodes.
Tholians are the big one I think. We've done the Klingons, and why be lazy and caustic and go Romulan? You have this built-in other TOS villain that's more interesting than another tired humanoid-of-the-week. And frankly, though Romulans are my favorite villains, they haven't been done well in a while. You have to work harder with them I think, because they can be visually boring. Tholians you can take practically anywhere story-wise; even if you made them mundane as hell thematically, just seeing them visually is ice-cream sundae enough.
Malurians were a surprise for me on ENT. I liked them, and they're an example of a random TOS reference you can run with to nice effect. I don't know if they hold a long arc, but you could use them in an episode or a scene.
Orion pirates, mobsters, black-marketers, and slavers. Could be useful, looking at topics like their version of contemporary real world topics like the "dark web", "human"-trafficking, and interstellar lawlessness.
Others...
Malurians were a surprise for me on ENT. I liked them, and they're an example of a random TOS reference you can run with to nice effect. I don't know if they hold a long arc, but you could use them in an episode or a scene.
Orion pirates, mobsters, black-marketers, and slavers. Could be useful, looking at topics like their version of contemporary real world topics like the "dark web", "human"-trafficking, and interstellar lawlessness.
Others...
I really like the Tholian idea. Totally under-used. Totally alien. Would fit in really cool, depending upon how they are used.
Could there not be a danger they would lose all those qualities by virtue of over use, a la the Borg?
Well, you'd need to use them sparingly. So...not a "Tholian War" for example!
I've come to the conclusion that Klingon Bob from that random episode of TOS -- "Friday's Child"? -- should be the main antagonist.
Re Orions though, I wish they'd do more skin tones. Every Orion is always exactly the same, uniform, skin tone that every other one is in that episode. Nature isn't so perfect, most of the time.
Also, bright green Orions are fun and add color to a scene, but I think I buy the darker Orions ones from TOS as more realistic. Lighter is too cotton candy/sorbet/Cosmopolitan Magazine; darker to me clocks as more real. I bought Vina the animal woman; not so much the perfect American(?) Orions in the finale. I loved them, but I wouldn't buy them as standard series villains. Give them a distinctness; don't just paint actors green and run lines for the camera.
Also, bright green Orions are fun and add color to a scene, but I think I buy the darker Orions ones from TOS as more realistic. Lighter is too cotton candy/sorbet/Cosmopolitan Magazine; darker to me clocks as more real. I bought Vina the animal woman; not so much the perfect American(?) Orions in the finale. I loved them, but I wouldn't buy them as standard series villains. Give them a distinctness; don't just paint actors green and run lines for the camera.
Or the ultimate no name guy:
SURRENDER MUST BE UNCONDITIONAL....AND IMMEDIATE!!!!
Is it just me who saw this picture and saw him about to start pole dancing?
^ Even that dude still looks more Klingon than the Klingons on Discovery do.
Why the pogonophobia?
Why the pogonophobia?
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The problem with the Tholians is that they must wear an ev suit just to be in the same room as anybody else and that sort of ruins the effect as they'll look just like anybody in an ev suit! They'd be the Breen of DSC.
Considering they're a non-humanoid species, I think having them in EV suits just adds to their alien-ness. Each individual could have personalized details on their EV suit to show their individuality as well.
Star Trek has rarely explored non-humanoid species in any major way (beyond single episodes). The closest they've come is Species 8472. A story arc with some sort of border tensions or hunt for a MacGuffin (or whatever draws them into some kind of antagonistic relationship) where the crew of the Discovery has to try to understand how to interact with a truly alien species sounds really intriguing to me.
That's how you grow a beard!
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