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Who Is This Guy??

People, I'm sorry for the confusion. I did not mean the actor is unknown or not a star or whatever. I just meant he was unknown to me! Only to me! That is all! Now if you don't mind, I'm going to crawl back under my rock now. It's very bright out here. What year is it, again?
 
People, I'm sorry for the confusion. I did not mean the actor is unknown or not a star or whatever. I just meant he was unknown to me! Only to me! That is all! Now if you don't mind, I'm going to crawl back under my rock now. It's very bright out here. What year is it, again?

I can't speak for anyone else, but I wasn't attacking you in any sort of way and didn't read into anyone else attacking you. Just your comment sort of spurred the conversation to what else Sadler has played. Can I pick up the rock now? :)
 
I can't speak for anyone else, but I wasn't attacking you in any sort of way and didn't read into anyone else attacking you. Just your comment sort of spurred the conversation to what else Sadler has played.

^ This. It just become a conversation about Sadler, no worries :)
 
. . .I did not mean the actor is unknown or not a star or whatever. I just meant he was unknown to me! Only to me! That is all! . . .

When Original Star Trek aired in the 1960s, it was instrumental in making me more aware of some actors. Guys like William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy, to name two. I had seen Shatner previously in episodes of The Twilight Zone, The Outer Limits, and The Man From U.N.C.L.E., but he really wasn't on my radar at the time. And Nimoy was unknown to me too. The only actors I was aware of at that time were people like John Hoyt (I knew his name from Outer Limits), Paul Fix (from The Rifleman), Gary Lockwood (The Lieutenant), Sally Kellerman (Outer Limits again), and Paul Carr (from Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea). And they were all in the pilots. Shatner, Nimoy, Kelley, etc., were complete unknowns to me back then.

Of course, I was 15 at the time. ;)
 
your comment sort of spurred the conversation to what else Sadler has played.

^ This. It just become a conversation about Sadler, no worries :)

Okay, just wanted to make sure you knew where I was coming from! Certainly not trying to slight the actor in any way. I loved him in the role. I was definitely ignorant of his other work. I'll check out some of these other films again you guys have mentioned. I've seen a couple of them years ago, but maybe I'll get the opportunity to watch again and look for Sadler. I saw Iron Man 2 a couple of years prior to me watching DS9 (I came to the show late), so perhaps I subconsciously remembered him which made my experience a little more mysterious.
 
Sometimes it takes a certain role for us to regonise an actor, sure we might have seen them before but they never really stayed with us for whatever reason. Then they do a role and all of a sudden whe we watch them in a new role or even one of their earlier roles. It's suddenly its so and so from .......
 
I saw Iron Man 2 a couple of years prior to me watching DS9 (I came to the show late), so perhaps I subconsciously remembered him which made my experience a little more mysterious.

You wouldn't have remembered him subconsciously from IM2, because he was only in IM3.
 
Sadler is a great actor, but he's not in Sheen's league. That said, I don't know what else he could've brought to the character other than name recognition.

If there is one person I think would have been better than Sadler, it's Malcolm McDowell. I think a subtle Alex-esque sociopathic element would have slid nicely over Sloane's façade.

Plus, there would be that added layer of paternal intrigue. But since it would exist solely beyond the fourth wall, it would be without the contrived, cliché silliness that usually comes a long for the ride.

That's an interesting proposition. Whilst I loved Sadler's performance as Sloan, Malcolm McDowell would have taken it to another level. His performance as Soran in 'Generations' was flawless. Seeing McDowell and Siddig bouncing off one another would have been mesmerising.

The imagination runs wild....
 
I didn't recall seeing Sadler in any roles prior to this. Having an unknown in the role helped enrich the mystery of the character for me. That, plus he did a great job in that role.

Die Hard 2 mate! No one can forget that nude scene!
 
As much as I'd have gotten a kick out of seeing Martin Sheen in DS9, I find it difficult to look past Bill Sadler's performance(s), which were brilliant.

Also, Malcolm McDowell, nice idea. Still prefer Sadler myself, but MM was un-fecking-believably good in Generations.
 
That's an interesting proposition. Whilst I loved Sadler's performance as Sloan, Malcolm McDowell would have taken it to another level. His performance as Soran in 'Generations' was flawless. Seeing McDowell and Siddig bouncing off one another would have been mesmerising.
McDowell did a descent job in "Generations" considering that, according to his nephew, one Alexander Siddig, he thought the script was "shit."
 
One problem with Malcolm McDowell as Sloan- the same one as when Jack Nicholson was cast in "The Shining" - kinda hard to accept as normal then the other side reveals itself.
William Sadler had a certain quiet calm about him with that undercurrent of determination - you could not see his edges but you knew he would go past them for his cause.
 
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