Who is River Song (Possible spoiler poll)
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Yep!
I was going to say that she is actually Jack Harkness, during those years of his life where he can't remember anything, this is what happened, he was turned into a women somehow, perhaps by the time agency as an experiment, married the Doctor, stuff happened, but then he changed back, and now he has that memory gap.
No, the series is split in half. It's not two separate series.
^which fact is confirmed by the RT listing TIA as 1/13 and not 1/7
Well, in episode 1 of Torchwood (if I recall) he does quip about having once been pregnant...
ah indeed
That would be fucking hyserical if the version of the Doctor that River kills was the Sixth, and if she ALSO was a fob-watched Rani.
Ha!
After seeing TIA, I guess we know who she kills.
So he didn't hit his head into the Tardis Console, instead it was River with a Wicket bat........?
LOL!!! That retcon would fix EVERYTHING!!!!
Would not Jack Remember living in a moon sized computer, or wouldn't he still be stuck there?????
Regarding River in the series 6 premiere...
How bout it IS our Doctor that is killed (no clone) and he invited his friends to witness his death purposely to keep it from happening...
He said he's tired of running, that he wants to stop running, as if the Doctor is in some kind of trouble that he can't escape from on his own. So, he faces the consequences of whatever's hunting him and allows his friends to witness his fate so they may serve to keep it from happening... including himself.
That's why he wanted his body burned so when the "Scooby-Who" gang solve the mystery and save him there's no duplicate Doctor's corpse left in the past... tying up the lose ends before it even begins.
Maybe Canton (?) has something to do with the Doctor's trouble, and must be convinced the Doctor is dead for some reason, the Doctor knowing once again that his friends will save him and close the loop.
...AND, I also think the little girl is River AND is in the space suit, and this episode is when she first meets the stranger that knows all about her (the Doctor). I think she's in the astronaut suit as another younger version of herself (but older than a little girl) and kills the Doctor as part of a complicated plan for which is why older River can't seem to shoot straight at the astronaut because she remembers this all happening; so she fails, on purpose, to kill herself even though she's a crack shot (shooting the Doctors' Stetson off his head earlier in the episode, and his tossed up Fez last season)... the Doctor could also be who she kills to land herself in space prison (killing a great man)... another part of the plan that is formulated in the latter 200 years of the older Doctor's life.
The future Doctors TARDIS is in the lake she emerges from (lake, river, pond?? get it?) which is how she arrives there and then disappears. And is why she was taught to fly the TARDIS at some point in her life with the Doctor, as this may play out all thru River's younger life.
River makes no effort to find the assassin, tells the others to let this play out, keeping Amy and Rory from telling the Doctor and finally understanding what her life has all been about. (The space suit is possibly also a nod to when the Doctor first met River in the library, she was wearing a white space suit). This all still means that River can still meet the Doctor at different points in their seperate time streams for the rest of the series, but now we'll know who she is and what her connection to the Doctor is all about... spoilers.
How bout it IS our Doctor that is killed (no clone) and he invited his friends to witness his death purposely to keep it from happening...
He said he's tired of running, that he wants to stop running, as if the Doctor is in some kind of trouble that he can't escape from on his own. So, he faces the consequences of whatever's hunting him and allows his friends to witness his fate so they may serve to keep it from happening... including himself.
That's why he wanted his body burned so when the "Scooby-Who" gang solve the mystery and save him there's no duplicate Doctor's corpse left in the past... tying up the lose ends before it even begins.
Maybe Canton (?) has something to do with the Doctor's trouble, and must be convinced the Doctor is dead for some reason, the Doctor knowing once again that his friends will save him and close the loop.
...AND, I also think the little girl is River AND is in the space suit, and this episode is when she first meets the stranger that knows all about her (the Doctor). I think she's in the astronaut suit as another younger version of herself (but older than a little girl) and kills the Doctor as part of a complicated plan for which is why older River can't seem to shoot straight at the astronaut because she remembers this all happening; so she fails, on purpose, to kill herself even though she's a crack shot (shooting the Doctors' Stetson off his head earlier in the episode, and his tossed up Fez last season)... the Doctor could also be who she kills to land herself in space prison (killing a great man)... another part of the plan that is formulated in the latter 200 years of the older Doctor's life.
The future Doctors TARDIS is in the lake she emerges from (lake, river, pond?? get it?) which is how she arrives there and then disappears. And is why she was taught to fly the TARDIS at some point in her life with the Doctor, as this may play out all thru River's younger life.
River makes no effort to find the assassin, tells the others to let this play out, keeping Amy and Rory from telling the Doctor and finally understanding what her life has all been about. (The space suit is possibly also a nod to when the Doctor first met River in the library, she was wearing a white space suit). This all still means that River can still meet the Doctor at different points in their seperate time streams for the rest of the series, but now we'll know who she is and what her connection to the Doctor is all about... spoilers.
I think its pretty obvious that the young River is a recruited (for love not money) by the Daleks and the Alliance of Baddies to kill the Doctor. They built both the Pandorica and the mystery Tardis. The Dalek in the Pandorica Opens knew of River's fate in the Library and the person she became after killing the Doctor, therefore couldn't win, hence the fear.
Moffet already stated that the Doctor couldn't keep running round the universe bragging about his victories indefinitely. The chickens are coming home to roost. Knowing this for 200 years, Doc finally gives in and meets his fate by the lake.
The Silents are not the bad guys in this tale, they just keep history on track by nudging the 'little people' in the right direction to make sure all the fixed points still happen. Why they do this isn't important to us. The Doctor's death is a fixed point and must happen. That doesn't mean he doesn't have a signet ring though, a precedent for Time Lords returning from the pyre...
Moffet already stated that the Doctor couldn't keep running round the universe bragging about his victories indefinitely. The chickens are coming home to roost. Knowing this for 200 years, Doc finally gives in and meets his fate by the lake.
The Silents are not the bad guys in this tale, they just keep history on track by nudging the 'little people' in the right direction to make sure all the fixed points still happen. Why they do this isn't important to us. The Doctor's death is a fixed point and must happen. That doesn't mean he doesn't have a signet ring though, a precedent for Time Lords returning from the pyre...
I think River is just a companion to a future Doctor (possibly the 12th or 13th).
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