Who DOESN'T love Kestra Troi-Riker?!

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  1. MrPointy

    MrPointy Captain Captain

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    Tell that to the Hirogen. Or Klingons.
     
  2. SJGardner

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    I watched it and it's not that bad as it sounds, it's actually perfectly SFW. Due to Grand Nagus Rom's new regulations, they're modestly clothed, and the video is just a cooking tutorial for tube grubs which they then proceed to eat from a replica chalice.
     
  3. ThreeEdgedSword

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    Ooh, I can totally see MaLaine as Lwaxana!
     
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  4. cosmic mouse

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    I don't love Kestra... nor did I dislike her. That last ep of Picard is my least fav outside of the Pilot (so far) as well... but I am no TNG fan , so that's likely the reason.
     
  5. Lt Johnny

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    My question did not refer to Starfleet membership.
     
  6. Lt Johnny

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    Exactly what I want to see in my Star Trek shows. Humanity behaving like it's 1 million years BC with no changes in moral attitudes or social norms or whatever.
     
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    :barf::barf::barf::barf::barf::barf::barf::barf::barf::barf:
     
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  8. Agony_Boothb

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    And my point is that Starfleet would obviously be able to determine sentient beings from the ones they could make burgers out of
     
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  9. Lt Johnny

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    How?

    This is not a rhetorical question. I would actually like to see an episode that shows Starfleet or the Federation grapple with that problem. Sentience is a matter of degrees. Some species are more sentient than others. When is a species "too sentient" to become a burger ingredient?
     
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  10. Agony_Boothb

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    probably when they know what a burger is and have the self awareness to not want to be one.
     
  11. ITDUDE

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    I had a home cooked burger yesterday (I do make them very nicely, everyone really likes them). Today I plan on some nice juicy sausages. I have a nice leg of ham on a stand in the kitchen. Yummy stuff. And last I checked it’s 2020 and not 1 Million BC. So take your unholy attitude somewhere else please.
     
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  12. Large Gathering of Unmasked People

    Large Gathering of Unmasked People Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    So pork would be off limits, then?

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    In I think Executive Producer Jeri Taylor’s once “canon” VOY novel Pathways, she wrote that Cardassians used to make garments out of Bolian skin...I don’t think they saw them all that sentient...or didn’t care...
     
  14. Agony_Boothb

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    Mmmmmm bacon *homer drool*
     
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    Like mother like daughter eh?:angel:
     
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    I thought she was a little hard to take, myself. It's not that the performance of the actress was a problem, it was a just an annoying character that she was playing.
     
  17. Roboturner913

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    Is there profit?
     
  18. Roboturner913

    Roboturner913 Commander Red Shirt

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    Maybe, but maybe not.

    I just read an article about rats that blew my mind. They are apparently at least semi-sentient, emotional creatures who care for each other, communicate with each other, and experience psychological trauma just like human beings. Scientists have apparently understood this for a number of years, maybe even decades, but continue doing cruel experiments on them, because they're cheap and plentiful.

    It's pretty fucked up. I am by no means a vegan, in fact I grew up hunting and probably I eat meat of some kind almost every meal. But other than primates, rats are, psychologically maybe the closest beings to humans on this planet and we treat them with basically unmitigated cruelty.
     
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  19. Roboturner913

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    one of the source articles (I believe) from the one I mentioned above

    https://phys.org/news/2020-03-rats.html

    Rat #1 can get food, and all it has to do is press the lever. But once it realizes the pressing the lever and getting food actually harms Rat #2 via electrical shock, Rat #1 nopes out. Rat #1 would rather not eat than to hurt Rat #2. So, figuratively speaking, not only does Rat #1 not want to be a burger, it doesn't want Rat #2 to be a burger either.

    Of course, we don't make burgers out of rats (except in bad Sylvester Stallone movies), but we don't generally regard them as emotionally intelligent beings either. So what other animals are we eating or mistreating that may also be in this realm?

    Again, I'm a meat eater and I doubt that will change drastically in the near future, but this makes me think about the things I thought I knew and what I might not know about after all.
     
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  20. NCC-73515

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    Just use Maddox' 3 criteria for sentience. If they fulfill all of them even in the smallest degree, what are they then? ;)
     
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