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Who doesn't look at the Mirror Mirror while Changeling outfits

Qonundrum

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A rewatch mini-marathon had me wanting to make a little commentary...



"Mirror, Mirror" - undoubtedly a classic episode regardless, and made in the 1960s for more general audiences as well as the sci-fi geeks, but:

  • How come the crew's clothes change in the transporter chamber?
  • How come the good crew don't end up in the brig when they transport back?
  • Marlena, for some reason, lets Sulu live after blinking all of his Batman-inspired goons out of existence, nimbly one by one, and as if Sulu had to be alive in the evil universe as well as the good one simultaneously because that's what someone thought the audience would be believing?! (Okay, mid-60s and how tv was made and shown and with no way to record and watch later, having to do a recap after each commercial break to remind the audience tuning in late that this isn't "our crew" would be a tad difficult... another reason to be highly impressed by how this episode has to do so much in the first place...)
  • Only 2 universes, ours and Mirrorland? (again, 1960s and balancing nuance with general audiences...)
  • TOS is hit or miss with stunt doubles, but this one is on par with "Space Seed" for particularly poor choices. At least it's not as unintentionally hilarious as the scenes in "I, Mudd", which almost break the 4th wall with subconscious self-awareness between camera angles with the stunt double followed by Norman and back again...
  • There are more navels shown here than in a shipyard, folks... at least it's in the evil universe...
  • And by far the worst: Spock's beard color is far lighter than his scalp hair, eyebrows, etc, despite it being impossible to tell the join where the fake beard and and the real skin begins

But, somehow, the story just gallops along and really digs into the meat of the moment and these little nitpicks seem less important.

This episode is a bit of a goofy one, yet only in good ways:
  • For one of few times, we see a proper ensemble piece and Uhura's seems particularly dangerous, given Sulu acting like a lion that's not been fed a gazelle in weeks, but a sense of claustrophobia pervades for all and it's very engaging stuff.
  • Scotty is unable to do sabotage - these scenes in particular, culminating with his reporting back to the Captain, are rather nicely done
  • The mirror universe really shows a lot in terms of selling the evil side of humanity and by 1960s standards, they go all out. For 1967 standards, it's amazing it got aired without major changes involving power struggles, showing body parts that are forbidden in every other show (Jeannie knows all about that, too), et cetera, et cetera
  • In retrospect, why were showing belly buttons a bad thing, what was the idea behind that according to the network censors? "OMG, abdominal muscles on display!?" seems an unlikely reason... (with season 3 showing far more than this episode ever had in "The Cloud Minders" too...)
  • Kirk's soliloquy to evil-Spock at the end is poignant and he's wordlessly hinting at having Marlena help him is rather good
  • Evil-Spock would warn Kirk ahead of time about the orders to up and kill him - it just doesn't get cooler than that
  • As with evil Spock's make-up, Sulu's fake scars were really nicely done. (and yet they had stunt doubles in whacking-great close-up too with nowhere near the attempt compared to the make-up...)
  • McCoy's "what kind of people are we" is samples for a electronica song in the late-80s...
  • Good-Kirk telling Marlena she could be anything she wanted, not just "The Captain's Object". This little bit of dialogue really shows off the difference between Mirrorland and their main universe, especially when we see Marlena in the good/main universe at the end.

Definitely a must-see despite the goofs as this largely succeeds in juggling so much, given the time in which it was made - certainly for reasons involving lack of home video recording technology, audience recaps, cleverly using the evil universe to say (and show!!) all sorts of things, and clearly the cast are just loving the atypical dialogue they're given.




As for "The Changeling", the biggest nitpicks:
  • I know modern day tv/film reviewers love to say "modern stuff is gimmicky and there's no payoff when they kill someone just to revive them ten minutes later"... the bad news is, TOS was doing that five decades earlier, with this story being a shining example of how plot-driven inanity can be just as insipidly timeless. OMGz, Scotty's killed. No he isn't, we can magically revive him after eating a bowl of Lucky Plotgimmick cereal! (at least Scotty gets some fairly decent dialogue as he wakes up, but he's got to stop interfering with Nomad, Apollo, or any hunky thing that will zap him to near-death or worse every time he throws a tantrum in the way many thistleheads are said to do...)
  • Uhura, mind wiped clean, apparently has an aptitude for math according to an astonished Chapel... Which is fine and dandy, but she's supposed to be the primo expert in xenolinguistics. The real problem is that everyone acts as if that language thingy aspect of her doesn't exist now. Worse, she has trouble learning how to read and speak about the bluey balls! (And was the obvious double entendre to that also well known in 1967?)
  • The casual sexism in this episode truly is galling. Nomad is used to make a snide comment about women is jaw-droppingly bad. At least it's not as gobsmackingly awful as it was in "Elaan of Troyius" regarding Kirk's apocryphal quip... (anything for the censors back in the day...)
  • The ship's defensive capabilities really are arbitrary. "power equivalent to 90 photon torpedoes" - and they can handle another four blasts' worth! Okey dokey!
  • Nomad's shiny new mission is to kill all that is imperfect. After Kirk lets it slip he's not The Creator(tm), Nomad buggers off to look up his medical charts but can't be bothered to kill anyone. It just knocks Nurse Chapel out - something Kirk gets huffy about but doesn't use in...
  • ...his barrage of logic-twisting to Nomad, effectively nagging him to death in a highly illogical trope that only TOS could make genuinely entertaining.
  • Another of Nomad's errors: So hyperfixated on the shiny engines, it doesn't think about how excessive engine velocity might exceed structural integrity/hull tolerance limits. (Okay, Nomad does state to Kirk that the ship is imperfect later after the fact, but it's a fair enough tangent to mention, since these systems are interconnected... then again, Nomad somehow got reprogrammed by "the other"... then again, what does Nomad need with a starship if it can flit about at war speeds and utterly smashing anything it finds with plasma bolts equivalent to 90 photon torpedoes and still have time to roast marshmallows afterward? )
  • How can Spock telepathically mindlink to a floating bucket of inorganic microchips? Other blobby organic beings, sure, but organic chemistry is not directly compatible with electronics/duotronics/treknobabbletronics, etc.) TNG has the same problem every time Troi senses Data having emotions too (this happened twice as I recall: Once in season 2, once in season 6... but I digress.)

It's got a lot of entertaining moments, this story does... but some of those scenes just stand out and rub the wrong way at times. I'm sure someone in the audience was watching this episode in 1967 and pondering how Nomad would go about destroying all biological infestations on Earth, had it reached the planet...

But the setup and payoff alone, in watching Nomad go nuts at the end, more than makes up for it. It's an interesting balance of seriousness and humor that somehow works.

I can totally understand why this episode was a springboard for "The Motion Picture", which takes the best bits from this story (and a couple others, while doing its own thing in the process) and uses them to genuinely better effect. It's a good reason in how plot recycling CAN lead to a better end result. (But if not done right, everyone inevitably and understandably gripes "no original thought".)

Definitely a fun watch, but not without a few facepalm-inducing moments. "Mirror, Mirror" is definitely the superior episode, but "Changeling", warts and all, seems underrated in season 2's arsenal of episodes and is worth a viewing.
 
How come the good crew don't end up in the brig when they transport back?

Why would they?

Uhura, mind wiped clean, apparently has an aptitude for math according to an astonished Chapel... Which is fine and dandy, but she's supposed to be the primo expert in xenolinguistics. The real problem is that everyone acts as if that language thingy aspect of her doesn't exist now. Worse, she has trouble learning how to read and speak about the bluey balls! (And was the obvious double entendre to that also well known in 1967?)

She was never a primo expert in xenolinguistics in TOS. That came later.

The casual sexism in this episode truly is galling.

Welcome to 1967?
 
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A rewatch mini-marathon had me wanting to make a little commentary...



"Mirror, Mirror" - undoubtedly a classic episode regardless, and made in the 1960s for more general audiences as well as the sci-fi geeks, but:

  • How come the crew's clothes change in the transporter chamber?
  • How come the good crew don't end up in the brig when they transport back?
  • Marlena, for some reason, lets Sulu live after blinking all of his Batman-inspired goons out of existence, nimbly one by one, and as if Sulu had to be alive in the evil universe as well as the good one simultaneously because that's what someone thought the audience would be believing?! (Okay, mid-60s and how tv was made and shown and with no way to record and watch later, having to do a recap after each commercial break to remind the audience tuning in late that this isn't "our crew" would be a tad difficult... another reason to be highly impressed by how this episode has to do so much in the first place...)
  • Only 2 universes, ours and Mirrorland? (again, 1960s and balancing nuance with general audiences...)
  • TOS is hit or miss with stunt doubles, but this one is on par with "Space Seed" for particularly poor choices. At least it's not as unintentionally hilarious as the scenes in "I, Mudd", which almost break the 4th wall with subconscious self-awareness between camera angles with the stunt double followed by Norman and back again...
  • There are more navels shown here than in a shipyard, folks... at least it's in the evil universe...
  • And by far the worst: Spock's beard color is far lighter than his scalp hair, eyebrows, etc, despite it being impossible to tell the join where the fake beard and and the real skin begins

But, somehow, the story just gallops along and really digs into the meat of the moment and these little nitpicks seem less important.

This episode is a bit of a goofy one, yet only in good ways:
  • For one of few times, we see a proper ensemble piece and Uhura's seems particularly dangerous, given Sulu acting like a lion that's not been fed a gazelle in weeks, but a sense of claustrophobia pervades for all and it's very engaging stuff.
  • Scotty is unable to do sabotage - these scenes in particular, culminating with his reporting back to the Captain, are rather nicely done
  • The mirror universe really shows a lot in terms of selling the evil side of humanity and by 1960s standards, they go all out. For 1967 standards, it's amazing it got aired without major changes involving power struggles, showing body parts that are forbidden in every other show (Jeannie knows all about that, too), et cetera, et cetera
  • In retrospect, why were showing belly buttons a bad thing, what was the idea behind that according to the network censors? "OMG, abdominal muscles on display!?" seems an unlikely reason... (with season 3 showing far more than this episode ever had in "The Cloud Minders" too...)
  • Kirk's soliloquy to evil-Spock at the end is poignant and he's wordlessly hinting at having Marlena help him is rather good
  • Evil-Spock would warn Kirk ahead of time about the orders to up and kill him - it just doesn't get cooler than that
  • As with evil Spock's make-up, Sulu's fake scars were really nicely done. (and yet they had stunt doubles in whacking-great close-up too with nowhere near the attempt compared to the make-up...)
  • McCoy's "what kind of people are we" is samples for a electronica song in the late-80s...
  • Good-Kirk telling Marlena she could be anything she wanted, not just "The Captain's Object". This little bit of dialogue really shows off the difference between Mirrorland and their main universe, especially when we see Marlena in the good/main universe at the end.

Definitely a must-see despite the goofs as this largely succeeds in juggling so much, given the time in which it was made - certainly for reasons involving lack of home video recording technology, audience recaps, cleverly using the evil universe to say (and show!!) all sorts of things, and clearly the cast are just loving the atypical dialogue they're given.




As for "The Changeling", the biggest nitpicks:
  • I know modern day tv/film reviewers love to say "modern stuff is gimmicky and there's no payoff when they kill someone just to revive them ten minutes later"... the bad news is, TOS was doing that five decades earlier, with this story being a shining example of how plot-driven inanity can be just as insipidly timeless. OMGz, Scotty's killed. No he isn't, we can magically revive him after eating a bowl of Lucky Plotgimmick cereal! (at least Scotty gets some fairly decent dialogue as he wakes up, but he's got to stop interfering with Nomad, Apollo, or any hunky thing that will zap him to near-death or worse every time he throws a tantrum in the way many thistleheads are said to do...)
  • Uhura, mind wiped clean, apparently has an aptitude for math according to an astonished Chapel... Which is fine and dandy, but she's supposed to be the primo expert in xenolinguistics. The real problem is that everyone acts as if that language thingy aspect of her doesn't exist now. Worse, she has trouble learning how to read and speak about the bluey balls! (And was the obvious double entendre to that also well known in 1967?)
  • The casual sexism in this episode truly is galling. Nomad is used to make a snide comment about women is jaw-droppingly bad. At least it's not as gobsmackingly awful as it was in "Elaan of Troyius" regarding Kirk's apocryphal quip... (anything for the censors back in the day...)
  • The ship's defensive capabilities really are arbitrary. "power equivalent to 90 photon torpedoes" - and they can handle another four blasts' worth! Okey dokey!
  • Nomad's shiny new mission is to kill all that is imperfect. After Kirk lets it slip he's not The Creator(tm), Nomad buggers off to look up his medical charts but can't be bothered to kill anyone. It just knocks Nurse Chapel out - something Kirk gets huffy about but doesn't use in...
  • ...his barrage of logic-twisting to Nomad, effectively nagging him to death in a highly illogical trope that only TOS could make genuinely entertaining.
  • Another of Nomad's errors: So hyperfixated on the shiny engines, it doesn't think about how excessive engine velocity might exceed structural integrity/hull tolerance limits. (Okay, Nomad does state to Kirk that the ship is imperfect later after the fact, but it's a fair enough tangent to mention, since these systems are interconnected... then again, Nomad somehow got reprogrammed by "the other"... then again, what does Nomad need with a starship if it can flit about at war speeds and utterly smashing anything it finds with plasma bolts equivalent to 90 photon torpedoes and still have time to roast marshmallows afterward? )
  • How can Spock telepathically mindlink to a floating bucket of inorganic microchips? Other blobby organic beings, sure, but organic chemistry is not directly compatible with electronics/duotronics/treknobabbletronics, etc.) TNG has the same problem every time Troi senses Data having emotions too (this happened twice as I recall: Once in season 2, once in season 6... but I digress.)

It's got a lot of entertaining moments, this story does... but some of those scenes just stand out and rub the wrong way at times. I'm sure someone in the audience was watching this episode in 1967 and pondering how Nomad would go about destroying all biological infestations on Earth, had it reached the planet...

But the setup and payoff alone, in watching Nomad go nuts at the end, more than makes up for it. It's an interesting balance of seriousness and humor that somehow works.

I can totally understand why this episode was a springboard for "The Motion Picture", which takes the best bits from this story (and a couple others, while doing its own thing in the process) and uses them to genuinely better effect. It's a good reason in how plot recycling CAN lead to a better end result. (But if not done right, everyone inevitably and understandably gripes "no original thought".)

Definitely a fun watch, but not without a few facepalm-inducing moments. "Mirror, Mirror" is definitely the superior episode, but "Changeling", warts and all, seems underrated in season 2's arsenal of episodes and is worth a viewing.

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A rewatch mini-marathon had me wanting to make a little commentary...



"Mirror, Mirror" - undoubtedly a classic episode regardless, and made in the 1960s for more general audiences as well as the sci-fi geeks, but:

  • How come the crew's clothes change in the transporter chamber?
  • How come the good crew don't end up in the brig when they transport back?
  • Marlena, for some reason, lets Sulu live after blinking all of his Batman-inspired goons out of existence, nimbly one by one, and as if Sulu had to be alive in the evil universe as well as the good one simultaneously because that's what someone thought the audience would be believing?! (Okay, mid-60s and how tv was made and shown and with no way to record and watch later, having to do a recap after each commercial break to remind the audience tuning in late that this isn't "our crew" would be a tad difficult... another reason to be highly impressed by how this episode has to do so much in the first place...)
  • Only 2 universes, ours and Mirrorland? (again, 1960s and balancing nuance with general audiences...)
  • TOS is hit or miss with stunt doubles, but this one is on par with "Space Seed" for particularly poor choices. At least it's not as unintentionally hilarious as the scenes in "I, Mudd", which almost break the 4th wall with subconscious self-awareness between camera angles with the stunt double followed by Norman and back again...
  • There are more navels shown here than in a shipyard, folks... at least it's in the evil universe...
  • And by far the worst: Spock's beard color is far lighter than his scalp hair, eyebrows, etc, despite it being impossible to tell the join where the fake beard and and the real skin begins

But, somehow, the story just gallops along and really digs into the meat of the moment and these little nitpicks seem less important.

This episode is a bit of a goofy one, yet only in good ways:
  • For one of few times, we see a proper ensemble piece and Uhura's seems particularly dangerous, given Sulu acting like a lion that's not been fed a gazelle in weeks, but a sense of claustrophobia pervades for all and it's very engaging stuff.
  • Scotty is unable to do sabotage - these scenes in particular, culminating with his reporting back to the Captain, are rather nicely done
  • The mirror universe really shows a lot in terms of selling the evil side of humanity and by 1960s standards, they go all out. For 1967 standards, it's amazing it got aired without major changes involving power struggles, showing body parts that are forbidden in every other show (Jeannie knows all about that, too), et cetera, et cetera
  • In retrospect, why were showing belly buttons a bad thing, what was the idea behind that according to the network censors? "OMG, abdominal muscles on display!?" seems an unlikely reason... (with season 3 showing far more than this episode ever had in "The Cloud Minders" too...)
  • Kirk's soliloquy to evil-Spock at the end is poignant and he's wordlessly hinting at having Marlena help him is rather good
  • Evil-Spock would warn Kirk ahead of time about the orders to up and kill him - it just doesn't get cooler than that
  • As with evil Spock's make-up, Sulu's fake scars were really nicely done. (and yet they had stunt doubles in whacking-great close-up too with nowhere near the attempt compared to the make-up...)
  • McCoy's "what kind of people are we" is samples for a electronica song in the late-80s...
  • Good-Kirk telling Marlena she could be anything she wanted, not just "The Captain's Object". This little bit of dialogue really shows off the difference between Mirrorland and their main universe, especially when we see Marlena in the good/main universe at the end.

Definitely a must-see despite the goofs as this largely succeeds in juggling so much, given the time in which it was made - certainly for reasons involving lack of home video recording technology, audience recaps, cleverly using the evil universe to say (and show!!) all sorts of things, and clearly the cast are just loving the atypical dialogue they're given.




As for "The Changeling", the biggest nitpicks:
  • I know modern day tv/film reviewers love to say "modern stuff is gimmicky and there's no payoff when they kill someone just to revive them ten minutes later"... the bad news is, TOS was doing that five decades earlier, with this story being a shining example of how plot-driven inanity can be just as insipidly timeless. OMGz, Scotty's killed. No he isn't, we can magically revive him after eating a bowl of Lucky Plotgimmick cereal! (at least Scotty gets some fairly decent dialogue as he wakes up, but he's got to stop interfering with Nomad, Apollo, or any hunky thing that will zap him to near-death or worse every time he throws a tantrum in the way many thistleheads are said to do...)
  • Uhura, mind wiped clean, apparently has an aptitude for math according to an astonished Chapel... Which is fine and dandy, but she's supposed to be the primo expert in xenolinguistics. The real problem is that everyone acts as if that language thingy aspect of her doesn't exist now. Worse, she has trouble learning how to read and speak about the bluey balls! (And was the obvious double entendre to that also well known in 1967?)
  • The casual sexism in this episode truly is galling. Nomad is used to make a snide comment about women is jaw-droppingly bad. At least it's not as gobsmackingly awful as it was in "Elaan of Troyius" regarding Kirk's apocryphal quip... (anything for the censors back in the day...)
  • The ship's defensive capabilities really are arbitrary. "power equivalent to 90 photon torpedoes" - and they can handle another four blasts' worth! Okey dokey!
  • Nomad's shiny new mission is to kill all that is imperfect. After Kirk lets it slip he's not The Creator(tm), Nomad buggers off to look up his medical charts but can't be bothered to kill anyone. It just knocks Nurse Chapel out - something Kirk gets huffy about but doesn't use in...
  • ...his barrage of logic-twisting to Nomad, effectively nagging him to death in a highly illogical trope that only TOS could make genuinely entertaining.
  • Another of Nomad's errors: So hyperfixated on the shiny engines, it doesn't think about how excessive engine velocity might exceed structural integrity/hull tolerance limits. (Okay, Nomad does state to Kirk that the ship is imperfect later after the fact, but it's a fair enough tangent to mention, since these systems are interconnected... then again, Nomad somehow got reprogrammed by "the other"... then again, what does Nomad need with a starship if it can flit about at war speeds and utterly smashing anything it finds with plasma bolts equivalent to 90 photon torpedoes and still have time to roast marshmallows afterward? )
  • How can Spock telepathically mindlink to a floating bucket of inorganic microchips? Other blobby organic beings, sure, but organic chemistry is not directly compatible with electronics/duotronics/treknobabbletronics, etc.) TNG has the same problem every time Troi senses Data having emotions too (this happened twice as I recall: Once in season 2, once in season 6... but I digress.)

It's got a lot of entertaining moments, this story does... but some of those scenes just stand out and rub the wrong way at times. I'm sure someone in the audience was watching this episode in 1967 and pondering how Nomad would go about destroying all biological infestations on Earth, had it reached the planet...

But the setup and payoff alone, in watching Nomad go nuts at the end, more than makes up for it. It's an interesting balance of seriousness and humor that somehow works.

I can totally understand why this episode was a springboard for "The Motion Picture", which takes the best bits from this story (and a couple others, while doing its own thing in the process) and uses them to genuinely better effect. It's a good reason in how plot recycling CAN lead to a better end result. (But if not done right, everyone inevitably and understandably gripes "no original thought".)

Definitely a fun watch, but not without a few facepalm-inducing moments. "Mirror, Mirror" is definitely the superior episode, but "Changeling", warts and all, seems underrated in season 2's arsenal of episodes and is worth a viewing.

You gave that more thought than the writers did.
 
  • Marlena, for some reason, lets Sulu live after blinking all of his Batman-inspired goons out of existence, nimbly one by one, and as if Sulu had to be alive in the evil universe as well as the good one simultaneously because that's what someone thought the audience would be believing?! (Okay, mid-60s and how tv was made and shown and with no way to record and watch later, having to do a recap after each commercial break to remind the audience tuning in late that this isn't "our crew" would be a tad difficult... another reason to be highly impressed by how this episode has to do so much in the first place...)

When I saw that episode (which is so long ago that I thought it was Chekov rather than Sulu, and that I have no idea who Marlena is) I assumed Mirror-Sulu was spared because somebody behind the scenes assumed that killing a main character, even if it was just his mirror-counterpart would have been too much of a shock for 1960s audiences (similar things could be said about that one female crewman who dies, as rather than being killed conventionally, she gets gets turned into a cube and then crushed)
But you make a good point about the people who might have tuned in to the episode late.

  • Uhura, mind wiped clean, apparently has an aptitude for math according to an astonished Chapel... Which is fine and dandy, but she's supposed to be the primo expert in xenolinguistics. The real problem is that everyone acts as if that language thingy aspect of her doesn't exist now. Worse, she has trouble learning how to read and speak about the bluey balls! (And was the obvious double entendre to that also well known in 1967?)
That causal mind-wipe of Uhura has got to be the most ridiculous brush aside in all of Trek. The woman gets her personality, her memories, her whole life erased, and it's all back to normal by the next episode. Even Troi in her worst plots was never done this dirty.

As to Uhura having an intristic knack for mathematics when she's supposed to be a Xeno-Linguist, well if we really want to really come up with an explanation for it other than"she has some natural talent for math, but decided she liked languages better" then we could speculate that decoding alien languages might take skill in mathematics, as would the creation of secret military codes. And who knows how many alien languages in the Star Trek galaxy might actually have mathematics as their basis?
 
Uhura, mind wiped clean, apparently has an aptitude for math according to an astonished Chapel... Which is fine and dandy, but she's supposed to be the primo expert in xenolinguistics. The real problem is that everyone acts as if that language thingy aspect of her doesn't exist now. Worse, she has trouble learning how to read and speak about the bluey balls! (And was the obvious double entendre to that also well known in 1967?).
What language thingy aspect? Uhura was never shown to have a thing for languages iirc, she was usually portrayed as a secretary who took and made calls.
 
Why would they?

Why wouldn't they? The evil crew are locked up in a brig. Now a viewer wanting to sit there and go "Good-Spock decided to have them standing on the transporter pads, knowing Good-Kirk in Mirrorland will save the day" ranks up there with Spock asking Kirk if he should shut off the tractor beam in "Tomorrow is Yesterday". Then again, the transporter selectively re-clothes people at the same time, and that's also not as much of a stretch, so you have a good point: It's best just to roll with it and not diddle with plot minutiae.

She was never a primo expert in xenolinguistics in TOS. That came later.

It came later, but out of organic thinking and extensions of what she was already doing. As she was always Communications Officer, a high end specialist position. It's honestly not that much of a stretch, unlike what I pondered what Spock was thinking above. If she's so much better at math, why isn't she working on her best traits instead? Because the ship does all the calculating so she's got nothing else to do?
 
What language thingy aspect? Uhura was never shown to have a thing for languages iirc, she was usually portrayed as a secretary who took and made calls.

Apart from "The Man Trap" where she's talking fluently in another language (Swahili) to someone, also speaks it readily in "The Changeling", et cetera, she also repaired and rerouted electronics equipment (in "Who Mourns for Adonis") - where Spock indicated she was the only person who could do this, among other things... Seems like more than "a secretary" to me... though a stretch of imagination is still playing 'connect the dots' and one can still end up with a squiggle... With the "not big three", it's inevitable, but are these other character traits more organic than, say, her ability to fly in the sky? Okay, that one's a bit outlandish, but who knows - the 4th Kelvin movie may reveal that to be a bona-fide character trait too--

Another tangent occurs: I'm sure you do a lot more in your job than what is immediate apparent. So it's fun to ask: Which is more of a stretch, that she would more likely use skills suited to her top strengths? Or rely on others? She clearly has many, more than what people remember her for just because that's the one they see most often. And I'll admit I'm about to answer my semi-rhetorical question on this as I'll flip this around, but many who are otherwise top-tier runners and bikers don't end up doing that for a living and with any luck they're in a big office where that running comes in handy. Dang, there goes my belief... :(

Also, fun fact: A switchboard operator in 1967 often made $65 a week. That's $519 today. Note that among other things not all states have the same cost of living, rendering said $65 to be more useful in some regions than in others, but before I digress and it's too early to open up that new brand of drambuie sold in 12-pack tin cans... :guffaw:
 
That causal mind-wipe of Uhura has got to be the most ridiculous brush aside in all of Trek. The woman gets her personality, her memories, her whole life erased, and it's all back to normal by the next episode.

Most folks just work under the assumption that what Nomad did was a mind block, not a mind wipe.
 
Why wouldn't they? The evil crew are locked up in a brig. Now a viewer wanting to sit there and go "Good-Spock decided to have them standing on the transporter pads, knowing Good-Kirk in Mirrorland will save the day" ranks up there with Spock asking Kirk if he should shut off the tractor beam in "Tomorrow is Yesterday".

One has to figure that Spock figured out pretty quickly what was going on and was working a parallel path to return Mirror Kirk and his landing party back where they came from.
 
The "Uhura must know languages" thing never made any sense. The only foreign language she ever demonstrated a skill in was English. She's a communications officer - she doesn't need to know anything about languages, not when her task is to operate and maintain machines that take care of those. And that she does with skill.

If she needs a hobby or an unnecessary skill to qualify as a human being, give her a singing voice or something...

Not killing Sulu by remote makes in-universe sense in that there's political and spiritual merit to personally sticking one's dagger in an opponent's chest or spine there. Moreau and Mirror Kirk would wish to keep their make-disappear device secret, but Moreau would also wish to let Mirror Kirk baske in the satisfaction of personally finishing off Sulu. And of course our Kirk also wants to avoid killing, so he only uses his fists, and Moreau doesn't immediately suspect foul play in that.

As for swapping places, there's no need to assume this happened twice. It never happened in any other Mirror episode, after all: you can go there or come from there without your counterpart being involved.

OTOH, Spock "assumes" those folks returned home somehow. So clearly they disappeared from the brig in shady circumstances. They may have disappeared in thin air while Spock was watching, yes. But surely we should assume them to be a resourceful bunch, even if eeeevil sort of resourceful. They may simply have escaped, and are still at large... :devil:

Timo Saloniemi
 
Most folks just work under the assumption that what Nomad did was a mind block, not a mind wipe.

I know that's the popular fanon, and it would makes much more sense with what we see of Uhura after this episode, but the implication in the episode is that Nomad wiped her mind, and iirc it pretty much says as much (if not in the exact same words, due to its robotic thought process) when it is asked to restore Uhura's mind (which it is unable to do)
 
I know that's the popular fanon, and it would makes much more sense with what we see of Uhura after this episode, but the implication in the episode is that Nomad wiped her mind, and iirc it pretty much says as much (if not in the exact same words, due to its robotic thought process) when it is asked to restore Uhura's mind (which it is unable to do)

Yeah, but we know Nomad is imperfect, so it is a mistake I can see it making.
 
Yeah, but we know Nomad is imperfect, so it is a mistake I can see it making.

I'm not saying you can't follow that fanon, as I said it would make more sense.
I'm just saying that, in my opinion, it's pretty clear in the episode that her mind is supposed to be wiped clear.
 
I wouldn't turn down convenience...

And Nomad lies a lot, to itself, because it is so confused. Its internal programming is in conflict, and Spock's speculations on possible internal logic as regards that seem way off. What it thinks it is doing and what it actually does are likely to be two different things some of the time, and convenience would put it at this particular time.

As for the Mirror clothes, the episode leaves us wondering if the heroes didn't swap bodies as well, with just the minds crossing over - this episode in isolation is not at fault there in any sense. Yet every other Mirror episode that involves a crossing makes it clear that a body performs this, even when these are 1:1 swaps (such as apparently with Lorca - or at least the body with the agonizer burns ended up in Decaf Universe).

Many a crossing also makes it clear that not just clothes but baggage such as cloaking devices will cross over unless effort is made to prevent this. But crossings tend to be distinct: few involve magnetic storms, some don't involve transporter trickery at all, etc. It's not out of the realm of the fictionally possible that the clothes or even the bodies would fail to make the transit in this particular case.

Timo Saloniemi
 
And in the reverse, most of the bad things that happen in the adventures are implausibly inconvenient. It's not something that should be faulted as such.

Timo Saloniemi
 
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