I've been enjoying some J/C youtube vids lately, and I was wondering... which couples are favored on this board.
Who are your favorite couples real/subtexted
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J/7 all the way!
I'm disappointed Paris/Kim isn't in there. Those two and their 'bromance' had more subtext and chemistry than any of the listed.
That said, I picked Paris/Kes. I liked Paris/Torres too, but they were nothing more than a vicious cycle of paranoia and guilt. I think, had Lien been given better material, Kes could have been every bit as challenging for him, just in a slightly more healthy way.
That said, I picked Paris/Kes. I liked Paris/Torres too, but they were nothing more than a vicious cycle of paranoia and guilt. I think, had Lien been given better material, Kes could have been every bit as challenging for him, just in a slightly more healthy way.
I'm actually a fan of a couple that hardly anyone has speculated over...Seven and B'Elanna. And I don't mean in a superficial, crass way that you might think.
There could have been a possibility to establish the first female couple on Trek.
Both were attempting to come to terms / distance themselves from their turbulent pasts. Both had deeprooted parental issues. Both knew what it was like to be a hyrbrid (Klingon/Human and Borg/Human) battling for a single identity. Both were intellectually brilliant and workaholics in Engineering and Astrometrics.
I honestly believe that they could have had a real connection between them and that would have been a brave, bold direction to explore. Unfortunately, we never saw them really get to converse together...unless you count that scene in 'Imperfections'.
There could have been a possibility to establish the first female couple on Trek.
Both were attempting to come to terms / distance themselves from their turbulent pasts. Both had deeprooted parental issues. Both knew what it was like to be a hyrbrid (Klingon/Human and Borg/Human) battling for a single identity. Both were intellectually brilliant and workaholics in Engineering and Astrometrics.
I honestly believe that they could have had a real connection between them and that would have been a brave, bold direction to explore. Unfortunately, we never saw them really get to converse together...unless you count that scene in 'Imperfections'.
The Doctor and Seven. I can't believe they put her with Chakotay!
What is it that has people interested in relationships between ficitonal characters that were never actually established in the show itself? I mean, why are some so fascinated by them?
This is in no way meant as a slight against 'shippers of any kind. I respect you, I really do. It's just an honest inquiry and maybe there's someone who can shed a little light on the subject.
This is in no way meant as a slight against 'shippers of any kind. I respect you, I really do. It's just an honest inquiry and maybe there's someone who can shed a little light on the subject.
I don't know, I think it would have been more fucked up for Seven's psyche to be having sexual relations with a lightbulb. At least Chakotay was a real man.
Living vicariously, I guess.
Frankly, I don't get it either.
While I enjoy the character interaction.
I'm not tuning in week after week wondering if two characters are going to bang or not.
Leave that stuff on Melrose Place.
It's sappy and melodramatic IMO.
It's fun to speculate. Shippers pair characters for the same reason people write fan fiction. It's interesting and entertaining to think of new/unexplored relationships and adventures for your favorite characters, particularly if there's a reasonable foundation within the characters' personalities, pre-existing canon relationship, etc for that shipping.
I'm not a fan of throwing together any two characters or writing romance fics OFC, but responsible shipping is interesting.
Seven is partially mechanized, so she shares that connection to technology with the Doctor. Plus, they both share an outsider status, a struggle to find and maintain a human identity.
I put absolutely no stock in the argument that the Doctor is not "real" because he's not made of meat.
Sorry, as far as a relationship with a real person I don't see the Doc as something equal to a talking vibrator. It seems like a preversion IMO. Like, how would people react at finding out their next door neighbor was having a deep and taudry affair with her Espresso machine....but that's just me.
Plus, we have a thread going about the Doc's real or imagined self elsewhere...
An exercise in imagination, ie: speculating on what-if's for the fun of it.
As I see it, it's none of anybody's business what you do or who you do it with in regards to your own private life, thus what people would think or how they would react is irrelevant.
If I wanted to just have a "relationship" with one of those real dolls and had no interest in seeking out a real Human-to-human relationship, so long as I'm not harming anybody else and I'm happy with my life, I couldn't give a damn what others think, in fact, what others think could be the original reason why I didn't seek out a human-to-human relationship in the first place.
Besides the Doc not being able to reproduce like your average humanoid, he's no more different then anybody else.... however since they could create another holographic character using elements of his basic structure and identity and elements from her DNA makeup, they could produce a holographic child.
And in regards to the argument of not being flesh and blood.... what is it that really makes us relate to another being? What makes the Doctor different from a human in a coma or who's a vegetable?
The existence of a personality which one can interact with and can dynamically adjust accordingly to continually changes environments and situations.
Some could argue that unless something is flesh and blood and looks like yourself, you can not relate or accept that something/someone is an equal..... yet if that flesh and blood someone or something has no personality or can not interact with you like you do with others, then they're no different then a toaster or a soggy carrot in the bottom of the fridge.
Through many of the ST series, one of the main suggestions given throughout is that no matter how someone looks, no matter what their origins are, no matter how they reproduce or their cultural differences..... if they have a personality and/or a consciousness, be that by sophistic design or biological evolution, that they are very much equal to you and I in many ways in which one can relate to, even by a remote degree.
With all that said, I still think a Doc/Seven relationship would have been weird.
I started with 10 options, added 4 more, and then another 2.
And I do like Tessa
