Which Season Do You Think is the Best?
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I know most people consider them the best. I'm not saying they're bad, I just don't think they were very interesting compared to the Vulcan arc or Observer Effect. Earth politics bores me. But hey I'm weird, I liked the Temporal Cold War (before they ruined it with Storm Front)
Was "Observer Effect" where that giant ship swallows up the Enterprise and aliens take over some crew to study them? That was a good one if I am remembering it right.
The ship looked very much like something out of ID4.
The ship looked very much like something out of ID4.
No that was "The Crossing". "Observer Effect" is the one where two non corporeal beings secretly take over the bodies of Reed and Mayweather to observe the crew's reaction to a deadly virus.
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You're not weird for liking the Vulcan arc as lots of people here like it. For me Observer Effect was an OK episode. It poses some interesting philosophical questions but as to how it fits in with the season as a whole, it was pointless. The most frustrating thing was that no one treated Hoshi and Trip any differently afterwards when they had a near-death experience. Maybe I would have liked it better if it was in season 1 or 2.
I think while I enjoyed the xindi arc, the season 4 format was a lot more viewer friendly, it's a pity that the season was not allowed to continue along the lines of what we saw in season 4.
As a side note I have had the urge to re-watch enterprise and are about a third way through season 1 and it's not as bad as I remembered, even episodes I remembered being indifferent to or disliking the first time around were ok to watch I did not feel like skipping episodes along the way (for instance when I try to re-watch Stargate SG1 I always have to miss out the Nox episode).
As a side note I have had the urge to re-watch enterprise and are about a third way through season 1 and it's not as bad as I remembered, even episodes I remembered being indifferent to or disliking the first time around were ok to watch I did not feel like skipping episodes along the way (for instance when I try to re-watch Stargate SG1 I always have to miss out the Nox episode).
I agree with you on the weak stretch encompassing the 2nd half of season 1 and the 1st half of season 2, though we'd probably disagree on exactly when things got bad and then got good again.
My recent post from another thread:
I'm not a fan of the Terra Prime arc. Everything feels very cramped and small in scale. Peter Weller needs more room to move to really be effective. The insta-baby felt gratuitously heart-wrenching, and made little sense plot-wise. Shran should have been in the conference scene towards the end, but they were "saving" him for TATV. Those are the gripes I can recall at the moment.
It was a stand-alone episode.
Yeah but being a standalone episode doesn't mean you can throw character development out the window. In fact, that's what Observer Effect was trying to do with Hoshi's past as poker ring mogul (which ended up feeling like it came from nowhere). Unless there's a reset button, I don't see why they couldn't apply character development moving forward.
Honestly, I was kind of glad that they "forgot" about Observer Effect. It's a different kind of a show, for ENT, but I didn't feel it was a very strong episode. One of those things where it's best to just leave it where they found it and not try to pick it up, anymore ...
The Crossing and Observer Effect are both good episodes.
The Crossing was one of the first Enterprise episodes I saw and I almost threw-up at how horrible it was. It was a very weak re-write of the TOS episode The Lights of Zetar. With The Crossing 98% of the plot is used up within the first 10 minutes, and then it's just "oh, lets hide in the nacelles until we comeup with a way to defeat these cloud things within the last 5 minutes of the show.
And Observer Effect, was one of the garbage episodes of Season 4. It did nothing and went nowhere. It felt like the producers were just trying to get the Organians in for some odd reason.
But the best episodes of the seasn, and the entire series were the In A Mirror Darkly episodes. Maybe the whole series should've been set in the Mirror Universe.
And Observer Effect, was one of the garbage episodes of Season 4. It did nothing and went nowhere. It felt like the producers were just trying to get the Organians in for some odd reason.
But the best episodes of the seasn, and the entire series were the In A Mirror Darkly episodes. Maybe the whole series should've been set in the Mirror Universe.
No sillier than Hoshi turning out to be an arm-breaking bad ass (don't remember which ep that was).
Was it the one where she was transported and there was some kind of snafu with that and she saw aliens on the ship but everyone else couldn't find her? They never really resolved whether that was real or not. I always felt she really had that adventure..
But, the Nox episode has Armin Shimerman!
Yeah, I have to admit I largely bailed on Enterprise after season 1 while it was on TV, and missed a lot of season 2 and most of Season 3. Came back for the last half of Season 4. Didn't watch Enterprise in it's entirety until I had it on DVD and did a marathon watch. Was much, much better the second time around. Even Seasons 1 and 2 weren't so bad, except for a hand full of episodes. Now that it has been a few years, I need to do another rewatch, but waiting until I have it on BluRay
That episode was Vanishing Point, and I can't find mention of the arm-breaking incident in the transcript.
The adventure wasn't real, just a dream she had while caught in the transporter buffer. It was a pretty obvious literalisation of Hoshi's feeling of being unneeded on the mission. I did like the plot of invisible aliens planting a bomb on Enterprise, which only she could see. I wish they'd done that for real instead of wasting it on "it was all a dream".
Turns out Hoshi's arm-breaking history was revealed in the same ep where she ran that poker game, i.e. Observer Effect. I guess they were trying to make Hoshi more interesting than she had been thus far (i.e. not very). It might have been nice to explore more of her feisty side later, but there was only half a season left at that point.
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If I recall Shimerman was one of the things I disliked about the episode.
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