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Which is better, The Orville or Lower Decks?
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I respect your opinion, but I admit I have gone the other way. I am really enjoying New Horizons episodes. A Tale of Two Topas was excellent. As was Twice in a Lifetime and Electric Sheep.
Thought the Krill episodes were good. As was the Shore Leave-ish Mortality Paradox.
The Orville has largely dismissed the humor of the first two seasons so there’s not much of a comparison between Lower Decks and TO now.
Indeed, if anything SNW seems the more apt show to compare Orville to these days given they're both live action episodic shows which serve as comfort food for Trek fans. And SNW is certainly doing it better as they've remembered to have fun and not take everything so damn seriously, whereas Orville in its third season is taking things a bit too seriously.
Watching ORV s3 now and it's impossible to compare to LD. They are nothing alike.
Having just finished watching SNW a few weeks ago though there are a lot of similarities between ORV and SNW. The fast talking quipy nature of the crew, the TOS/TNG style morality wrap up on every episode
The Orville hands down. The show looks beautiful and the blance of comedy and drama are just right. Lower decks over does it on the comedy.
Orville was a comedy that left that behind.
Lower Decks makes no apologies for what it is.
Lower Decks.
Lower Decks makes no apologies for what it is.
Lower Decks.
Both shows seemed to have started off as comiedies, but they also reduced their overtly comedic take on things and doing things more seriously in later Season 2.
LD may retain a bit more of its comedic elements going forward, but I wouldn't be surprised if it (like the Orville) started doing more serious stuff in its third season.
And there's a good chance we might see T'Linn from the Vulcan ship coming to the Cerritos, and with the group ending up having more interactions with their Klingon counterpart who became a captain (not as an equal lower decks, but more like a circumstantial pairing for now - unless something happens to him and he gets demoted and escapes to the Federation and ends up on the Cerritos as part of a larger plot).
I should think the season 3 trailer makes it very clear this show is still a comedy in the coming season.
The writers already stated after wej duj aired that though she is in the third season, she is not joining the Cerritos crew.
While I agree (and I think it's obvious) that The Orville toned down it's comedic elements, I don't find S2 or LDS to be any less comedic than S1.
Yes, but the Orville suffers more for my part.
Perhaps, but LD did go with a more comprehensive storytelling route I suppose with the Pakleds and now the captain being taken into custody for being a lead suspect on blowing up a Pakled planet.
I don't mind LD retaining its comedy, but at the same time, its actually interesting to see if they will go with the more serious route in S3.
That's your proof of them being more serious? Mike McMahan has said that ending the season with Captain Freeman being arrested was meant to be a parody of 90s season ending cliffhangers.
A parody?
Maybe parody isn't the exact right term, but basically he wanted to invoke the mix of frustration, dread and anticipation that seeing "To Be Continued" at the end of a season finale brought up in the 90s rather than make it a dramatic plot point. Ending the season with Freeman arrested was itself a meta joke rather than a dramatic plot point.
Indeed, the fact McMahan has made it clear in interviews he did after the season 2 finale aired that Freeman will be exonerated, and indeed the season 3 trailers also make this very clear, it's obvious they were never once trying to make us think there was a legitimate possibility she would be leaving.
It's funny actually how gullible (for lack of a better word) audiences were back then. There would be genuine dread over the fate of characters whereas these days it is taken for granted to an extent that they will get out of a situation it is more the excitement as to how.
I'm pretty sure we all knew the characters would somehow get out of the situation in a (hopefully) clever and dramatic way and were therefore excited to see how - even way back in the 90's.
That's kind of the point of telling stories isn't it?
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