Which era do you prefer, the 23rd or 24th Century?

[C.E. Evans]

The 24th Century, because the starships have Holo-decks.

Can you imagine living on a starship without a Holo-deck? One has to remember that space voyages usually consists of long periods of inactivities enroute where a change of scenery would be a welcome respite from the monotony.

What they did during TOS was have shore leave on various planets they passed along the way. They also occasionally visited a starbase or space station for R&R too.

That is true, but the holodecks would serve quite well for leisure time during the voyage.

The original Enterprise had a number of facilities for leisure time--several rec rooms, a garden, a gymnasium, and probably several lounges where crewmembers could hang out. I think there was also a theatre too, but crewmembers could likely access countless entertainment productions from computer terminals when off-duty.

Of course, I can never understand why it is customary for the Captain of the ship and key personnels to be the ones to lead the away team. When dealing with the unknown, a science team should be sent down, but as it is, we should be surprise that there isn't an expected high turnover of captains in Starfleet by this practise alone.

On other ships, only the first officer (or a junior officer) leads landing parties. But Kirk was a very take charge captain and didn't like being left behind on the bridge too often.

But then Kirk's philosophy might also be a result of the time he lived in which starship captains may have been regarded by Starfleet as point men rather than people who stayed on the ship and delegated authority to subordinates.

"Mr. Spock, you are second in command. This will be a dangerous hunt. Either one of us by himself is expendable. Both of us are not."
--Captain James T. Kirk

 

[Kemaiku]

23rd Century.

 

[Enow]

The original Enterprise had a number of facilities for leisure time--several rec rooms, a garden, a gymnasium, and probably several lounges where crewmembers could hang out. I think there was also a theatre too, but crewmembers could likely access countless entertainment productions from computer terminals when off-duty.

A valid point that I have overlooked. Thanks. I am toying with the idea of writing a fanfic, and so this will help.

Of course, I can never understand why it is customary for the Captain of the ship and key personnels to be the ones to lead the away team. When dealing with the unknown, a science team should be sent down, but as it is, we should be surprise that there isn't an expected high turnover of captains in Starfleet by this practise alone.

On other ships, only the first officer (or a junior officer) leads landing parties. But Kirk was a very take charge captain and didn't like being left behind on the bridge too often.

But then Kirk's philosophy might also be a result of the time he lived in which starship captains may have been regarded by Starfleet as point men rather than people who stayed on the ship and delegated authority to subordinates.

"Mr. Spock, you are second in command. This will be a dangerous hunt. Either one of us by himself is expendable. Both of us are not."
--Captain James T. Kirk

Another valid point. I should not see Kirk's practise as customary of all Starfleet captains' of that time period.

 

[Praetor]

I've always been fascinated by the movies-era 23rd century, and the early 24th century era that followed.

 

[CaptPapa]

Definitely the 23rd century; do I have to be the one to mention the alien . . . uhh . . . attire at that time?

 

[Greg Cox]

The original Enterprise had a number of facilities for leisure time--several rec rooms, a garden, a gymnasium, and probably several lounges where crewmembers could hang out. I think there was also a theatre too, but crewmembers could likely access countless entertainment productions from computer terminals when off-duty.

A valid point that I have overlooked. Thanks. I am toying with the idea of writing a fanfic, and so this will help.

There's also a bowling alley (mentioned in "The Naked Time") and a swimming pool!

 

[BillJ]

I wonder how much holodeck time is available to those beneath the senior staff?

According to the TNG Technical Manual, on the Galaxy-class there are four main holodecks and twenty personal holodecks and there's a thousand-plus people on board.

There's 1,440 minute in a day times that by 24 holodecks then divide it by a thousand people, it comes out to 35 minutes a day. If all of them are available 24 hours a day and none of that time is for training or various maintenance.

I'll just stick with the 23rd century and the multiple pleasure planets. Plus I'll have my monthly subscription to "Klingon Kleavage!" to pass the time.

 

[Enow]

I'll just stick with the 23rd century and the multiple pleasure planets. Plus I'll have my monthly subscription to "Klingon Kleavage!" to pass the time.

Why settle for less? Have a Klingon wife. Then you will never have to worry about solicitors ever again.

 

[Nerys Myk]

He didn't go through with it. Unlike Roslin on more than one occasion.

Archer needed information. Corpses aren't all that talkative. I forget what Roslin was up to. I do remember cheering when Cally was spaced by Tory.

 

[The Old Mixer]

^Roslin was up to spacing Cylons. Happened to one of the Leobens and two of the Cavills. Maybe others that I'm forgetting. She wanted to space the Sharon who became known as Athena upon seeing her, but was convinced otherwise.

My whole point was that Archer, and Trek in general, didn't have the balls to actually go through with it. Roslin has several successful spacings on her resume, and she didn't bat an eyelash about doing it.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Roslin was hardcore.

 

[kgartm1185]

24th century.

 

[anh165]

If we're comparing quality of life or just the amenities on board a 23rd century starship vs one from the 24th century, then you cannot get better than on the Galaxy class ship.

Although during TOS, living quarters and life off-duty seems rather good but drastically got to the point of cattle class in TUC onboard the Enterprise-A with small pokey living quarters and bare metal flooring.

Heck even Sulu's quarters was the size of a shoe box on the Excelsior, ship which is supposed to be a 'super starship' of its time.

 

[trevanian]

I can actually buy into the actions and credibility of the people and events of a lot of TOS ... whereas except for some of DS9, all of 24thcentury Trek simply never rings true for me.

So in a sense it is like choosing to live a 'real' life or accepting 24th century (illusion) ... and I'm not one to let Talosians make me their bitch.

23rd century NO QUESTION WHATSOEVER.

 

[Greg Cox]

I don't care about the quality of life in each era, since I'm not planning to relocate to either century anytime soon. I just care about which one is more fun to watch.

 

[drychlick]

23 Kirk time

 

[Anji]

Doesn't matter to me. Give me a fast starship and a fair galaxy and I'm in.

 

[MacLeod]

Or more poetically. "All I ask is for a ship and a star to steer her by".