Which Discovery loose ends bother you the most?

[Tuvix5675]

Here's a brief list of the ones that left me hanging
Why did Tyler leave with L'Rell? Wasn't Voq consciousness exorcised out of Tyler?
Is the Klingon/Federation War really over?
Since Burnham got promoted to Commander, is she still outranked by Saru?
Does Discovery still have its spore drive?
How did Lorca become Captain of Discovery in the first place?
How much time passed since the pilot?
Why were there so many non-Klingons on Quonos?
Wasn't it really shortsighted and reckless for the Federation to give Georgiou her freedom?
Have we seen the last of Harry Mudd?
Who will be Discovery's Captain?

 

[Mirror Mirror]

I do not consider these loose ends, but

1: Tyler had all Voqs memories. He was both Klingons and starfleet. This was his chance to be more than an oddity, to do some good
2: Yes, its over. Now onto Empire unification and the TOS cold war
3: Saru has more time in rank, so likely not. Unless they count her time before
4: Unknown. It may have been uninstalled, but they can't keep using Stamets and his modifications were illegal anyhow
5: His ship went down, they thought he was Prime Lorca. So he was seem as the best man for the job. How does anyone become captain?
6: Not sure, I would have to count. 2 years or so I would guess counting the time jump
7: They explained it. That was an Orian enclave, it was more or less the "alien" sector
8: Yep, Trek stupid. But inline with other things they often do
9: Gods I hope not, this Mudd is fun!
10: No clue

 

[lawman]

Most of these are really non-questions that will either be answered in time or are fairly trivial in the first place. But the bit about how much time has passed is indeed interesting. FWIW:

We know the two-part opener began on May 11, 2256, and takes place over a couple of days at most (aside from the epilogue with Burnham's tribunal). Episodes three and four (when Burnham joined the Discovery crew) take place six months after that story ended — hence, November.

We know episode five takes place three weeks after Burnham joined the crew, and episode six just a few days after that — so let's say December.

By episode seven (with Mudd), some unspecified time has passed — Burnham's voiceover says "An air of routine has descended upon the ship, and even I am a part of it. I've made friends." ... and, of course, Mudd had had time to devise his plan and put it into action. January?

Episodes eight and nine take place back to back, and lead into the mid-season break and the MU arc. Can't be too much farther along timewise, though, since Cornwell is still a captive under interrogation.

Episodes 10-13 all take place over just a couple of days in the MU, and in #13 Lorca says it has been "one year, 212 days" since he left the MU — but if it corresponds with the Buran's destruction early in the war, it may be best to ignore the "one year" as a rhetorical flourish, a rounding up. 212 days is almost exactly seven months, so if he made the transition in June, that again gives us January.

Then the Discovery returns to its own universe nine months later, and in episodes 14-15 events rapidly proceed to the end of the war over just a couple of days — hence, it's October 2257.

End to end, then, not two years, but about 17 months overall — albeit with actual story content only for the bookends and a few weeks in the middle.

 

[Gepard]

Why was the tone of the third episode so different from any of the episodes that followed, and what were the black badges originally going to be about?

 

[Lord Garth FOI]

The fact that Burnham didn’t get eaten yet

 

[PixelMagic]

Why was the tone of the third episode so different from any of the episodes that followed, and what were the black badges originally going to be about?

Because Fuller was booted in the middle of writing the 4th. The other writers didn't like his Klingon War arc, and ESPECIALLY didn't like his end season idea, but CBS execs were pressuring the show delivery big time because they'd already delayed twice. So they said "fuck it" and filmed the first 4 episodes with Fuller's scripts, and then over the season tried to slowly undo his story line so that in Season 2 they could take the show in a more light hearted and Trek-like direction.

 

[Lord Garth FOI]

Because Fuller was booted in the middle of writing the 4th. The other writers didn't like his Klingon War arc, and ESPECIALLY didn't like his end season idea, but CBS execs were pressuring the show delivery big time because they'd already delayed twice. So they said "fuck it" and filmed the first 4 episodes with Fuller's scripts, and then over the season tried to slowly undo his story line so that in Season 2 they could take the show in a more light hearted and Trek-like direction.

Based on that; Wonder if the plan was always to do the corny Lorca heel turn.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

[Odo]Those are loose ends?[/Odo]

 

[PixelMagic]

Based on that; Wonder if the plan was always to do the corny Lorca heel turn.

I think not, if I remember correctly. Been a long time since I was told the original season arc, but I think Lorca was always going to be prime Lorca. He was just going to be a morally questionable captain driven to desperation of tactics by war. I can't remember how, but they were going to end up in the mirror universe, but not because Lorca took them there. When they use the spore drive to jump back to the prime universe, it would have thrown them forward in time to post-Voyager era instead of just 9 months, where they would have been marooned.

The second season would then pick up with a post-Voyager era crew, and cut back and forth between Discovery's ongoings and the new crew, bringing the Discovery story to an end over 2-3 episodes, and handing off to the next crew. Then they would have had a new crew every season. CBS thought building sets, props, costumes etc for all these different crews/ships would have been crazy expensive, and since they didn't know if Season 1 would be successful, they told Bryan Fuller no and he didn't like that.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ By the time casting for the role of Lorca started, the character was from the Mirror Universe, as per Jason Isaacs himself.

Also, the Anthology thing had been abandoned long before Discovery went into production.

 

[PixelMagic]

^ By the time casting for the role of Lorca started, the character was from the Mirror Universe, as per Jason Isaacs himself.

Also, the Anthology thing had been abandoned long before Discovery went into production.

Must have been a super early version of the idea I heard then.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ Or somebody was feeding you bullshit.

 

[KennyB]

I would not call any of those loose ends really.............and none of them bother me.

 

[PixelMagic]

^ Or somebody was feeding you bullshit.

No, it wasn't that for sure. Perhaps through the grapevine the facts got distorted, though. My sources have been correct about everything else.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ The facts disprove the testimony of any sources you might have.
- The plot and premise for Discovery as we've seen it (the Klingon War, the trip to the Mirror Universe, Burnham as the main character and not Discovery's Captain) were decided on long before production on the series started.

- Jason Isaacs took the role of Lorca knowing the character was from the Mirror Universe, and helped finalize and solidify his motivations and the extent of his ambitions.

- Fuller actually had Discovery entering the Mirror Universe in the fifth episode of the season.I

- Fuller was let go because he was trying to multitask and work on two incredibly complicated series - Discovery and American Gods - simultaneously, and CBS needed and wanted him to focus on Discovery exclusively because it was falling behind schedule due to his multitasking and at risk of going over-budget.

 

[Wulfsa]

Black badges!

 

[F. King Daniel]

Black badges!

Beat me to it!

 

[PixelMagic]

^ The facts disprove the testimony of any sources you might have.
- The plot and premise for Discovery as we've seen it (the Klingon War, the trip to the Mirror Universe, Burnham as the main character and not Discovery's Captain) were decided on long before production on the series started.

- Jason Isaacs took the role of Lorca knowing the character was from the Mirror Universe, and helped finalize and solidify his motivations and the extent of his ambitions.

- Fuller actually had Discovery entering the Mirror Universe in the fifth episode of the season.I

- Fuller was let go because he was trying to multitask and work on two incredibly complicated series - Discovery and American Gods - simultaneously, and CBS needed and wanted him to focus on Discovery exclusively because it was falling behind schedule due to his multitasking and at risk of going over-budget.

Yeah, that's all true, and nothing I said contradicts that. Maybe this idea was shot down long before casting or Fuller's departure. I don't know the timeline, just the idea.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ When, exactly, did your sources tell you the things you posted about?

 

[PixelMagic]

^ When, exactly, did your sources tell you the things you posted about?

Why does it matter?