Why?! It's still the Doctor saving the universe every week. The universe will change and the Doctor will have 11 more regenerations (save the Beeb a lot of trouble). Most kids won't even notice.
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Why?! It's still the Doctor saving the universe every week. The universe will change and the Doctor will have 11 more regenerations (save the Beeb a lot of trouble). Most kids won't even notice.
The 50th is in late 2013. You indicated a reboot might be in store after next year
If you reboot, why would the Doctor only have 11 Regenerations left? Why not the full compliment of 12?
I said a reboot would happen after Moff and Smith left. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
I think it would be interesting if the new Doctor left after his first regeneration than before. Kind of a mid-life crisis plot point.
Ah, OK, my bad... I got so hung up on "Next Year, they can do Adventures from the 200 intervening years" and I was thinkin', "Wait...That's a year before the 50th"?
Hadn't thought starting a Reboot with a Regeneration, that'd be cool, because they could slip someone in, in the Background of a scene sometime, and then do some Twist episode, with that previously unseen First and Second Doctor and show that scene from the other Perspective.
Course I'm in no hurry for a Reboot, I think it's fine as is.
The "after the twelfth regeneration there is no plan that will postpone death" thing will probably be used as a storyline where it looks as though the Thirteenth Doctor (or the Twelfth Doctor if it is decided a regeneration was used up in The Stolen Earth/Journey's End) is going to die with no regenerations remaining, but something happens which either gives him a new cycle of twelve regenerations or unlimited regenerations. It could happen during an adventure where the Doctor has somehow ended up on Gallifrey, breaching the time lock and being "recharged" by the Eye of Harmony or the Untempered Schism somehow while he is there, or absorbing the energy of the Crystal of Zog on the Planet Zog, or whatever it may be.
That, or it will be written around or ignored completely. Moffat or a future writer could change the regeneration limit, saying it was a result of the Time War or something. It won't be a problem.
Yea, I was kinda hopin' when we get there, He'd lay down to die, and then be shocked, wondering how he Regenerated. You could either leave it ambiguous, and always wonder if this might be the last Regeneration or you could expose a little of the answer at a time.
I would sort of be against a "Reboot" as the show acts as a Reboot with every Reincarnation of The Doctor. It was once explained to me that The Doctor's Adventures are truly the stories of his Companions. If you look at it like that you could state that it's essentially a new show every time The Doctor Regenerates. However, retains what is already known.
However, we still have an entire lifetime with River to consider! Every time we meet her she mentions her "last meeting" with The Doctor. However, she also stated that she has a picture of "All His Regenerations" They could do an entire series of the missing 200 years. And the 50th Anniversary Episode could be within that time period. Aurg! Not knowing is soo mindboggling!
However, we still have an entire lifetime with River to consider! Every time we meet her she mentions her "last meeting" with The Doctor. However, she also stated that she has a picture of "All His Regenerations" They could do an entire series of the missing 200 years. And the 50th Anniversary Episode could be within that time period. Aurg! Not knowing is soo mindboggling!
If I was the BBC, I would seriousely consider it for one reason and one reason only, movie rights. After seeing the success of BSG, Batman and especially Star Trek, the Beeb must be asking themselves how they can be part of that. A reboot makes the Doctor Who franchise more palatable to American film studios since the first film becomes an origin story to introduce American audiences to the Doctor.
Rose, Smith and Jones, The Eleventh Hour. All of them are technically origin stories.
And I'd hardly class BSG as a 'success' critical maybe, but ratings wise? Not really...
And I can't see American studios being that interested, especially once someone points out that the last time it was tried it crashed and burned.
If, big if given we're in a time of austerity, the BBC decided to do this they wouldn't bother with a reboot, I suspect they'd just go with Smith or (sadly more likely) bring back Tennant for a pre regeneration series of films.
And I'd hardly class BSG as a 'success' critical maybe, but ratings wise? Not really...
And I can't see American studios being that interested, especially once someone points out that the last time it was tried it crashed and burned.
If, big if given we're in a time of austerity, the BBC decided to do this they wouldn't bother with a reboot, I suspect they'd just go with Smith or (sadly more likely) bring back Tennant for a pre regeneration series of films.
They are origin stories for the companions but the American audience (or at least the studio) would want a true origin story about the Doctor. The problem with Doctor Who is no matter how hard you try, people feel like they are dumped in the middle of the story and that turns off American audiences. People are seriously intimidated by all that history, no matter how many times you tell them that it doesn't matter (see Star Trek).
Compared to the original, it's a huge success. It's just an example of how a reboot can transform even a marginal show in to a critical if not financial success.
Studios are desperate for ideas with proven track records (see "Battleship", nu Blade Runner, rebooted Total Recall etc.)
Doctor Who probably looks like a gold mine. The only problem is actually it's 48+ yr history. Studios actually just want the buzz words people recognize (the Doctor, companion, Tardis, Daleks).
The BBC wouldn't be doing anything but getting the percentage of the profits. I'm not talking about the BBC rebooting Doctor who, I'm talking about the BBC allowing a reboot to happen so they can license Doctor Who to an American movie studio.
The question is why anyone would want such a thing?
Frankly I could give a shit if 200 million Americans don't get Who. It isn't made for (most of)them.
And seeing the Doctor's origin? Why? You'll be wanting to give him a name next, or make him half human or something
Frankly I could give a shit if 200 million Americans don't get Who. It isn't made for (most of)them.
And seeing the Doctor's origin? Why? You'll be wanting to give him a name next, or make him half human or something
The Doctor has never had a "proper" origin story. Hell, after 48 years we still don't know his fucking name. And you know what, Doctor Who continues to be popular, one of the most popular shows on UK television, and the recent seasons have seen a boost of interest in the US.
Also, there's nothing intimidating about Doctor Who and its history. Sit down and watch any random episode of Doctor Who and you'll find it a lot less complicated and a lot more easier to follow than an episode of Lost, a show with covlouted and complicated storylines which established such a complex involving story that even if you watched every episode you'd still be confused. And that was one of the most popular US TV shows of the past decade.
We shouldn't expect a reboot of Doctor Who anytime soon, if ever. And why would one be needed, anyway? At then end of the day it's still about a lone alien travelling time and space. Does it matter if what happened before is considered canon or not?
Speaking as an American, I have to say that the show simply doesn't appeal... Or at least didn't. It took the Daleks to get me even interested. And you're right, it's not made for us. But you should care if Americans don't get interested. Why? Because if you can reach the American Market, you'll top anything. That's well understood by the BBC.
However, the show has been gaining here in America. I know people I show earlier episodes to have backed off the show, but as soon as I show them Series 5, they're hooked. It's something about the new direction of the show.
The other thing is the failure of "The Movie" The only reason it failed was because it was a Made-For-TV Movie. I'm not sure how it works elsewhere, but here in the States, MFTV Movies are regarded as crap. On top of that, it did a poor job of introducing The Doctor as a character we could "get behind".
The other thing about the movie was the Timing. It came out at a time where most movies sucked, and anything British that wasn't Monty Python wasn't even looked at. Not really. So it just had bad timing.
Now America is ready for shows like Doctor Who and Torchwood. Furthermore some of our better movies are low-budget. And this is probably the biggest factor to consider... Due to the lack of a great sci-fi, and the uncertainty of our Economy, Americans are turning to "Foreign" Programming.
I think an American Re-boot would be a disaster, but a British Movie would hit big! And being an American Whovian, I'd not only pay to see it, I'd help fund advertising for it. But let me be absolutely clear... Although I love American Movies. Although I'm a proud American. Please... PLEASE... Don't ever let us have it. Doctor Who is great as it is. The last thing it needs is Over-Sexed, CSI Styled Investigating, Americanization.
That is not to say I wouldn't mind seeing an American Companion, though.
However, the show has been gaining here in America. I know people I show earlier episodes to have backed off the show, but as soon as I show them Series 5, they're hooked. It's something about the new direction of the show.
The other thing is the failure of "The Movie" The only reason it failed was because it was a Made-For-TV Movie. I'm not sure how it works elsewhere, but here in the States, MFTV Movies are regarded as crap. On top of that, it did a poor job of introducing The Doctor as a character we could "get behind".
The other thing about the movie was the Timing. It came out at a time where most movies sucked, and anything British that wasn't Monty Python wasn't even looked at. Not really. So it just had bad timing.
Now America is ready for shows like Doctor Who and Torchwood. Furthermore some of our better movies are low-budget. And this is probably the biggest factor to consider... Due to the lack of a great sci-fi, and the uncertainty of our Economy, Americans are turning to "Foreign" Programming.
I think an American Re-boot would be a disaster, but a British Movie would hit big! And being an American Whovian, I'd not only pay to see it, I'd help fund advertising for it. But let me be absolutely clear... Although I love American Movies. Although I'm a proud American. Please... PLEASE... Don't ever let us have it. Doctor Who is great as it is. The last thing it needs is Over-Sexed, CSI Styled Investigating, Americanization.
That is not to say I wouldn't mind seeing an American Companion, though.
I don't believe Doctor Who will ever be as popular in the US as it is in the UK. But does it have to be? Doctor Who is already making a big enough splash in America. The premiere screening of season 6 in America could rival the opening night screenings some movies get, and plenty of main-stream high-rated television shows like The Simpsons, Family Guy and The Big Bang Theory have included Doctor Who referances.
And all this without a bloody reboot. Hell, in the case of The Simpsons, they've been doing Doctor Who jokes since at least 1995. And the show wasn't even on the air back then.
The primary failings of the telemovie are that they tried to introduce everything right away. You don't dump all that continuity in a new viewer's face all at once, you'll just confuse them. The opening sequence alone includes the Doctor introducing himself and the Master, with referances to Daleks, Skaro, Gallifrey, regeneration. We see the TARDIS, learn it's bigger on the inside, and see the sonic screwdriver.
Now compare that to RTD's approach. Within the first 15 minute of Rose we meet the Doctor, though all he says is that he's known as the Doctor, and I think we see the sonic screwdriver. We see the exterior of the TARDIS, but don't learn about the interior until later on in the episode. We then have to wait six weeks before learning of the Daleks, 13 weeks to learn about regeneration. Skaro and Gallifrey aren't referred to by name for two years, and the Master is introduced after three years. Meanwhile, who or what the Doctor is, where he's from are then doled out over the course of the series, and there are still several key facts that are either not revealed or kept vague.
There's already Peri. Depending on how you define "Companion" you could also say Grace Holloway. And depending on how you define American, Captain Jack did claim to be American in Miracle Day.
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True that. Well said.
LOL Indeed.
Is that a quote from Brannon Braga's "If I got a hold of Doctor Who" diary entry? You know, along with some of his greats like, "If only I was in charge of Star Trek" and "Alternate Realities are Cool: A Brannon Braga Tale"
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