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Where is Worf most at home?
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I love Worf.
But he was a bit of a tightass. I think the problem stemmed that he was a member of two cultures and was caught between them. He is a Klingon, but was educated and raised by humans. What he knew about his people was learned to him as a child from other outside information.
Worf to me, always felt uncomfortable with Klingon life outside of the rituals. For instance, Klingons like to party, get drunk on blood wine and beat the hell out of each other for the fun of it, the first one with a broken nose gets a free drink. Pain feels good to these people. Worf has lived among humans long enough to think that this activities are wrong and does not take part in them. Remember in both TNG and DS9, Klingons often told Worf that he has been around those humans too long, and you need to join the Empire. However, Worf stuck his neck out for the Empire enough times that they know he is a dependable fighter for their cause, but only for the Federation side.
Alexander failed as a Klingon because he was one fourth human. Why was Alexander seen as weak by his Klingon collegues. It is because he was raised human, and knows human ways.
Klingons, much stronger than humans. Humans (usually) are much smarter than Klingons and can outwit them at their own game. Worf has a high I.Q. for his people, he was raised by humans, and accepted their ways. People assimilate from the culture that they were raised in, no matter who they were.
I agree with Qwark's assessment about Worf. Qwark thought of him as a "black cloud", someone who sucked the party right out of the room. Didn't really like the guy. Remember, Qwark is the only Fernegi to actually marry and copulate with a Klingon female (and he loved every minute of it, the copulation that is....), and he ended up caring and even loving his (ex) wife. Worf was caught between two sides, with both sides wanting his help, with his loyalties divided. This division of loyalties drove Picard and Sisko nuts. When Martok hired Worf as a Klingon ambassador, you could Sisko say "Thank you!!!!"
On the Romulan Ale.
Scotty
One of the most interesting characters in Star Trek history.
But he was a bit of a tightass. I think the problem stemmed that he was a member of two cultures and was caught between them. He is a Klingon, but was educated and raised by humans. What he knew about his people was learned to him as a child from other outside information.
Worf to me, always felt uncomfortable with Klingon life outside of the rituals. For instance, Klingons like to party, get drunk on blood wine and beat the hell out of each other for the fun of it, the first one with a broken nose gets a free drink. Pain feels good to these people. Worf has lived among humans long enough to think that this activities are wrong and does not take part in them. Remember in both TNG and DS9, Klingons often told Worf that he has been around those humans too long, and you need to join the Empire. However, Worf stuck his neck out for the Empire enough times that they know he is a dependable fighter for their cause, but only for the Federation side.
Alexander failed as a Klingon because he was one fourth human. Why was Alexander seen as weak by his Klingon collegues. It is because he was raised human, and knows human ways.
Klingons, much stronger than humans. Humans (usually) are much smarter than Klingons and can outwit them at their own game. Worf has a high I.Q. for his people, he was raised by humans, and accepted their ways. People assimilate from the culture that they were raised in, no matter who they were.
I agree with Qwark's assessment about Worf. Qwark thought of him as a "black cloud", someone who sucked the party right out of the room. Didn't really like the guy. Remember, Qwark is the only Fernegi to actually marry and copulate with a Klingon female (and he loved every minute of it, the copulation that is....), and he ended up caring and even loving his (ex) wife. Worf was caught between two sides, with both sides wanting his help, with his loyalties divided. This division of loyalties drove Picard and Sisko nuts. When Martok hired Worf as a Klingon ambassador, you could Sisko say "Thank you!!!!"
On the Romulan Ale.
Scotty
One of the most interesting characters in Star Trek history.
Enterprise D, I mean apart from Jadzia he didnt really have anyone he would consider to be a true friend on DS9. Worf belongs on the enterprise!
That's adorable, K. And your sig is too. 
DS9 is where not fitting in is being at home!
What You Said. Great analysis. I always thought it said a lot about Worf that the three women in his life were either hybrid species or conjoined species.
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He seemed happier just being with Picard and the gang.
Well, except for that time Picard called him a coward.
Well, except for that time Picard called him a coward.
And the mere fact he didn't deck him for being called one spoke volumes about how he felt about Picard, the look in his eyes showed that he really would have killed anyone else who said that.
Except maybe Sisko, if what I remember about a conversation Dax had with Sisko about him (only heard it anecdotally, think it was with Ezri).
I'd say that the E-D was a lot more his home than DS9. On the station, he seemed to isolate himself, and unable to integrate. On the big D, he was running extra martial defence classes, and seemed to develop a better bond with a larger variety of the crew, not just the senior staff. True, he's the Chief of Security, so he probably saw it as a mandatory part of his job to run said courses, but I doubt he'd need any prompting from Picard or Riker to run them, even if he wasn't Chief of Security.
I voted for the ambassador position. He's spent his entire life walking the fine line between being Klingon and doing what was in the best interests of the Federation.
What I was thinking exactly.
I generally hate bumpy Klingons, but Whorf's character grew on me throughout DS9. Spock-esque in his being an outsider everywhere.
I wouldn't know if that would be where he is most at home, a lot of his conflicted feelings about his dual-culture nature seems to derive from when Federation and Klingon interests clash.
Now, as to whether he'd be the most qualified person for the job, that's another matter...
No Minsk? Worf sure seemed to feel strong about that place.
But I agreee with those who say that Worf could never truly feel at home anywhere. Not with the Klingons because he wasn't raised among them and not with the humans as his looks, his biology and all else would forever set him apart.
Worf always seemed to try very had to be the ultimate klingon. To be more klingon then even the klingons. It's just never worked. Although he spoke the language, knew the rituals and the history of the Klingons intimately he never seemed to have their zest for life.
But I agreee with those who say that Worf could never truly feel at home anywhere. Not with the Klingons because he wasn't raised among them and not with the humans as his looks, his biology and all else would forever set him apart.
Worf always seemed to try very had to be the ultimate klingon. To be more klingon then even the klingons. It's just never worked. Although he spoke the language, knew the rituals and the history of the Klingons intimately he never seemed to have their zest for life.
DS9, where he fell in love I imagine.
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