Where is the Guardian of Time
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If that place didn't look incredibly far away from anything and everything, I don't know what would. That's unknown, unfamiliar, unexplored space, it's got to be.
Please explain.
I don't know. Didn't it resemble the ancient, ruined background one saw on M-113?
More of a Trenzalore situation. The planet is littered with the remains of the TARDIS. The planet itself might be the TARDIS. The "doughnut" is like the space-time scar that the Great Intelligence and Clara used to enter the Doctor's timeline.
Or perhaps I've given this too much thought.
I always assumed the Guardian could only be used by those whom it specifically allowed to use it. Thus it'd be smart enough not to let the Klingons in.
The Guardian is most likely indestructible.
Temporal investigations from the future guards it.
You mean there were alien ruins? Yes. That planet was remote, too. The Guardian planet more so, since they'd never come across it before. If it had been nearby in known space, those "ripples" in time would have caught someone's attention... Besides, they went to SO much trouble to create an impression of someplace remote and strange that I take my cue from that.
That sounds very much like "Profile in Silver," an episode of the '80s version of The Twilight Zone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profile_in_Silver
The script gave a stardate of 3134, but this was not said on screen.
Actually, if I remember right...
The DTI generally avoids using the Guardian because they believe it is unstable and possibly even insane.
Stephen King's 11/22/63 has the same "don't screw with history, particularly Kennedy history" premise.
More of a Trenzalore situation. The planet is littered with the remains of the TARDIS. The planet itself might be the TARDIS. The "doughnut" is like the space-time scar that the Great Intelligence and Clara used to enter the Doctor's timeline.
Or perhaps I've given this too much thought.
We're in the wrong universe aren't we, Nerys?
JB
That's disappointing. I sort of like the vision of Daniels occasionally strolling around the premises in his Michelin Man suit!!!!
More of a Trenzalore situation. The planet is littered with the remains of the TARDIS. The planet itself might be the TARDIS. The "doughnut" is like the space-time scar that the Great Intelligence and Clara used to enter the Doctor's timeline.
Or perhaps I've given this too much thought.
It's the ruins of Gallifrey devastated from the Great Time War and thus beginning to "bleed" into other dimensions. The Guardian is the "Untempered Schism" Tennant's Doctor described in "The Sound of Drums".
*Sound of crickets *
Okay, I'll admit that was just stupid.
Sincerely,
Bill
...Interestingly, those Greek-style pillars were quoted as mere 10,000 years old. A later civilization that erected a place of worship around the far more ancient Guardian (perhaps having arrived through the Guardian, Stargate style, and therefore being at the ancient Greek level of tech rather than starflight level - or then simply aesthetically oriented towards classic Greek architecture)? The originating civilization, having created the Guardian in a fashion that made it far older than said civilization?
That was not stated. Might be the planet had been visited, but only at such times when no time waves were present and the place looked dull and uninteresting.
Depends on whether the Guardian ever sleeps, I guess...
We don't know their range. We know "unusual readings" had "led" the heroes to the planet, but from the meager distance of mere "millions of miles". Also, typically, starships only start scanning their environs after having plunged fairly deep into the star system in question. Perhaps Kirk was tasked with taking a look at this system, or perhaps some other, outwardly more interesting planet within it, and only this mission brought him to within the range of the waves. The system really could be right next door to an Earth colony or a UFP member homeworld.
The contrary assumption would be that the waves reach much farther than mere "millions of miles", but either aren't always there or cannot be observed by ships at warp, and therefore Kirk only saw them fairly late in the game. In that model, the waves might reach to distant star systems, requiring the Guardian to be really out in the sticks lest it be observed.
I guess that this ultimately is the decisive argument. Although "factually" nearby places such as Pollux have been remote and strange in appearance, too.
Timo Saloniemi
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