Where is the Guardian of Time
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In canon, that I know of, right where we last seen it.
It did have some apocryphal adventures, though.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Guardian_of_Forever
It did have some apocryphal adventures, though.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Guardian_of_Forever
In the next episode they were in the star system of a established Human colony, if adjunct episodes means anything they couldn't have been too far into the unknown reaches during TCOTEOF.
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IMHO yes, or damned close.
Half the species in the galaxy might have claimed it.
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Then again, the mission to Deneva was to check up why this colony had stayed quiet for a full year! Supposedly, then, it would be extremely difficult, time-consuming and unusual for anybody to travel to Deneva (despite this place having been an important commercial hub a century prior). If the Guardian is next door to this place, it could really be out in the sticks - but one wonders why it wasn't spotted back when this neighborhood was the center of attention.
Also, "Federation space" is Swiss cheese in many episodes: locations close to Earth are quite unknown to Federation science, and if they are claimed by the UFP, the claim hasn't been enforced by any physical flag-planting. The Guardian could be on Federation soil just like the Ba'ku planet is, formally annexed but never visited, and in such an inhospitable corner of space that no competing space power bothers to make a contrary claim. But the Guardian could just as well be rewriting history in self defense so that anybody arrogant enough to make a claim notices himself suddenly lacking a pedigree...
Timo Saloniemi
Also, "Federation space" is Swiss cheese in many episodes: locations close to Earth are quite unknown to Federation science, and if they are claimed by the UFP, the claim hasn't been enforced by any physical flag-planting. The Guardian could be on Federation soil just like the Ba'ku planet is, formally annexed but never visited, and in such an inhospitable corner of space that no competing space power bothers to make a contrary claim. But the Guardian could just as well be rewriting history in self defense so that anybody arrogant enough to make a claim notices himself suddenly lacking a pedigree...
Timo Saloniemi
I'd have said The Guardian was outside Federation space in a part of the galaxy where sentient life kept away from. Only the knowledge hungry humans would go into to explore anyway!
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A bit strange how it was never used again apart from an episode of the animated series. It's an iconic feature from one of the most iconic Star Trek episodes. Hopefully it will show up in the new series. I bet Starfleet kept it a secret so no one else could tamper with the timeline.
"Star Trek Maps" (Bantam, 1980) listed the "Time Planet" as a quarantined star system. Perhaps this planet (and its star system) are on a Starfleet list of forbidden worlds that includes Talos IV and maybe others; visiting any of these worlds is punishable by death.
I don't particularly need to see it again.
It is potentially an extremely powerful weapon. Imagine a force of Klingons showing up somewhere in Earth's past wiping out all life. I'm sure Starfleet has it well guarded, and I'd consider destroying it outright.
It is potentially an extremely powerful weapon. Imagine a force of Klingons showing up somewhere in Earth's past wiping out all life. I'm sure Starfleet has it well guarded, and I'd consider destroying it outright.
I don't know where its meant to be but Prime Spock should use it to save Vulcan or kill Nero
Not so strange, given how insistent Harlan Ellison is about being compensated whenever anyone utters the words "Guardian of Forever" or "Edith Keeler" (slight exaggeration, but not by much; I suspect he'd go after the fanfic authors if he could find them).
Of course Starfleet would have kept it a secret. If you take TAS as canon, they'd have had an even bigger reason to keep it under wraps - all it would take is one careless error, as happened in that episode, and the potential exists for much more than just one person's existence to be snuffed out.
Well, it was authorized in the TAS episode "Yesteryear" and the Guardian played a pivotal part in several pro novels (Yesterday's Son and Time for Yesterday, both by A.C. Crispin, are what comes immediately to mind). But I can easily fathom that Starfleet would have added the Guardian's world to the list of quarantined planets.
The matter was handled quite nicely in one of the fan film vignettes. NuTrek never happened.
It is no more powerful a weapon than all the other methods of time travel we've seen in the Trek universe. The slingshot effect is a better one, for instance. You can send a whole starship through, and all you need is a star.
The concept of timeline is exceedingly tenuous in Trek, unfortunately.
I read a fanfic story where Kirk used it to prevent David Marcus' death, as a result the Genesis device was used to help a planet which exploded due to dodgy protomatter and millions of people died. Every time Kirk went back to correct the wrong, more people kept dying. He had to accept that David's canon death had to stand....
The matter was handled quite nicely in one of the fan film vignettes. NuTrek never happened.
There is even a better story where Kirk and co never returned after Keeler's death so Uhura went through and met them in the 1970's. S/U became lovers. Bones was a famous doctor and Kirk left to run a ranch and got married and had kids. Its a good story. Their real focal point was not Edith Keeler but... KHAN!
The Guardian is on the massive pile of Stuff They Never Talk about, right next to the serum from "Plato's Stepchildren" which gives everyone telekinetic superpowers and would completely redefine humanity.
The Guardian is clever and sentient. If it does not like what you've done to the timeline it will eliminate your existence and all your ancestors would never be born.
That's cos the serum has nasty side effects, its makes your dick shrink for males and your breasts shrink for females lol
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