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Where is Sybok?

Trek V, goofy as it is, is filmed Trek produced by Paramount, and is thus part of the Narrative, and thus Canon. :)

Technically, Sybok's whereabouts and status during 2233 thru 2258 (Alternate Reality) are unestablished on screen.

Story possibilities exist should the writers decide to utilize him.
 
I always figured that Nero hunted down Sybok and killed him... slowly. Man had to have something to do for twenty-five years.
 
Since Spock didn't even tell his BFF of twentysomething years about Sybok until he had to, I seriously doubt the insane future Romulan miner-turned-worldkiller had a clue the 'bok even existed.
 
Since Spock didn't even tell his BFF of twentysomething years about Sybok until he had to, I seriously doubt the insane future Romulan miner-turned-worldkiller had a clue the 'bok even existed.

I doubt Spock told Nero anything about himself. Yet Nero was able to spot the Enterprise when it was just a speck on his viewer and knew Spock(2) was aboard.

That Nero just has a feel for those kinds of things... :lol:
 
Trek V, goofy as it is, is filmed Trek produced by Paramount, and is thus part of the Narrative, and thus Canon. :)

That's what I tell everyone who declares the Animated Series non-canon, even when it has Gene's name on it.

I will be honest though. Star Trek V should be treated like a deleted scene. It was written, filmed and produced, but the end result just slows down the pace of the overall story that the last movies were trying to tell. The story that starts with 2 and ends in 6 flow much more naturally than having Trek 5 thrown in the mix. It makes sense especially when Star Trek 3 established that the crew were willing to risk their careers and certain court martial to help Kirk, but when they get this one single pinch of pain taken away they're all up for committing mutiny on Kirk without a moment's hesitation or a hint of regret. That is poor EVERYTHING.

And what difference does it make that Sybok was Spock's brother? He could have been a very trusted friend who didn't treat Spock badly when they were kids and you would have had the same set of circumstances with Spock not wanting to shoot him in the hanger. Throwing in random "out of nowhere" family members sucks, especially when it's their basta*& children (Superman Returns & Indiana Jones 4).

I have no problems or issues in leaving out Sybok from canon. Spock just doesn't need a brother. Now, a sister? Maybe. God knows NuTrek needs more women.
 
My opinion is that the writers are wrong, and their comments aren't canon until they appear as confirmed on screen, anyway. The timeline was not the same up until the Narada came through. The timeline changed due to the events of the Temporal Cold War as seen on Enterprise, and the new Trek movie flows out of those changes. There may be no Sam Kirk or Sybok, or they may be different from the way we knew them.
 
My opinion is that the writers are wrong, and their comments aren't canon until they appear as confirmed on screen, anyway.

How can the person writing the story be wrong about its' contents? :lol:

For the duration of this film series... these are the rules they laid down for time-travel that is caused by a 'red matter' induced black hole.

Just go with the flow... :techman:
 
USS Triumphant said:
and their comments aren't canon until they're confirmed on screen anyway

They were confirmed on screen. It's stated repeatedly that Nero and Spock are from "the future", and Spock says "...Nero's very presence has altered the flow of history beginning with the attack on the USS Kelvin..."
 
How can the person writing the story be wrong about its' contents? :lol:
That can happen when another writer writes the next part of what is seen on screen (and is thus canon) and contradicts what the previous writers thought but never actually showed and made canon. That isn't even a hard question. Try again. :p

Spock says "...Nero's very presence has altered the flow of history beginning with the attack on the USS Kelvin..."
Spock might not have realized when he said that that he had moved to a parallel universe where changes had already occurred in addition to going back in time. I frankly doubt that myself, though, so I'll offer a better one: The older Spock we saw in ST:09 wasn't Spock "Prime"! He was the Spock from the timeline that was the future of Enterprise (and thus influenced by those changes) before Nero's interference occurred.
 
I always figured that Nero hunted down Sybok and killed him... slowly. Man had to have something to do for twenty-five years.

If so, he can't have found him because Sybok would have resolved Nero's pain and STXI would have been a totally different movie calumniating in the ageless question: "Why does God need a simple mining vessel?".
 
How can the person writing the story be wrong about its' contents? :lol:
That can happen when another writer writes the next part of what is seen on screen (and is thus canon) and contradicts what the previous writers thought but never actually showed and made canon. That isn't even a hard question. Try again. :p

Spock says "...Nero's very presence has altered the flow of history beginning with the attack on the USS Kelvin..."
Spock might not have realized when he said that that he had moved to a parallel universe where changes had already occurred in addition to going back in time. I frankly doubt that myself, though, so I'll offer a better one: The older Spock we saw in ST:09 wasn't Spock "Prime"! He was the Spock from the timeline that was the future of Enterprise (and thus influenced by those changes) before Nero's interference occurred.
Still comes down to writer intent. They are real. Spock isnt. The words that come out of his mouth are their words. They knew exactly what was meant and intended by the line. How you or I want or need to interpret it to mean to satisfy some fannish notion of "right or wrong" is irrelevant. To paraphrase Me Brooks "the Producers": They are the writers, you are the audience. They outrank you.
 
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