Poll Where are all the aliens? Are they hiding?

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by valkyrie013, Jun 7, 2023.

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Where are the Aliens?

  1. Out there but hiding?

    2 vote(s)
    7.7%
  2. Out there but not to our level yet?

    1 vote(s)
    3.8%
  3. Out there but they don't give a darn about us?

    11 vote(s)
    42.3%
  4. Out there, but in a form that is absolutly alien to us?

    4 vote(s)
    15.4%
  5. Not Out there at all?

    6 vote(s)
    23.1%
  6. Not Out there, but they are already here.

    2 vote(s)
    7.7%
  1. bdub76

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    They could already be here as bugs. Do you really think aliens would look like us? What if our pets are evolved aliens?
     
  2. publiusr

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  3. Low Winter Stun

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    Rather more subtle than Saturn's pattern.

     
  4. Qonundrum

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    I, for one, welcome our new Quagaar overlords! :D

    Any species that's figured out how to traverse the cosmos and all of the figurative hurdles therein gets my awe and respect.

    And, of course, getting outside the spaceship to traipse around the joint. Then again, if it's true that bacteria and fritters reviving having been dormant in now-melting glaciers that ended up frozen when glaciers took off like hotcakes during the formation of the last ice age and everyone's in a tizzy in how zillions of humans and other species might die because of those, and those are all on the same planet... Never mind any beings from another planet and what they're bringing along with their matching baggage, cookbooks, and guitars to sing folk songs with?

    Do they come from a planet that supports life as we know it? Or rather, at least as compatible in terms of temperature, gravity, oxygen, and so on, requirements? Life could develop elsewhere and under conditions that we might otherwise think are impossible. But compatibility being one issue, communication might be that much more difficult as well...

    Silicon-based? Silicone-based?

    A species that developed with the ability to breathe helium might be fun... if it expels hydrogen, it's got its own fuel source to toot out. If humans could eat beans and toot out rocket fuel, we'd all be interstellar.
     
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  5. Low Winter Stun

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    Still have to factor the mass of the beans into the rocket equation though...
     
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  6. publiusr

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  7. XCV330

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    Helium doesn’t make many compounds, far too noble for that, but maybe it could play some role in the digestive process of a space based entity that excretes buckminsterfullerium and burps formerly intercalated helium atoms
     
  8. Low Winter Stun

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    Might explain why Rygel, Dominar of the Hynerian Empire, on Farscape farted helium.
     
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  9. publiusr

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  10. XCV330

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    meanwhile Avi Loeb can no longer look at anything for longer than five minutes without discerning extra-terrestrial origin.
     
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  11. publiusr

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    He just needs the Centauri hair now.
     
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  12. Michael Two Wolves

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    My take was always either they're too far away (the Fermi paradox) or they're already here in the solar system and have been for a very long time.

    Not only that, Hawking's observation was valid: that technology develops primarily as a result of the pressures and needs of war, and that a truly spacefaring race would likely have developed technology due to being very aggressive and unyielding. They most likely would not be here to benefit us, but to secure resources by any means necessary. Human life would be an after thought, if a thought at all. More Borg-like than Vulcan-like.
     
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  13. STEPhon IT

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    5 - I don't think there's anything out there that is comparable to Human beings. And at such a vast distance both civilizations would be dead before contact.
     
  14. DarthTimon

    DarthTimon Commander Red Shirt

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    In all the vastness of the Milky Way alone, I find it inconceivable that we're alone. Others have explained, far better than I could, as to why we haven't observed aliens, or had contact with them, but they're out there. I firmly believe that.
     
  15. Michael Two Wolves

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    Once humans get a working warp engine, we'll do what we do best:

    Establish a chain of greasy spoon diners in orbit over every major civilizational world, and fill the galaxy with our pop culture. lmao
     
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  16. DEWLine

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    I go with "combined options 1-4".
     
  17. Michael Two Wolves

    Michael Two Wolves Commander Red Shirt

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    Fermi Paradox goes unsolved.

    Best bet is they're here, they've always been here, and we're just the next species to gain sentience while they watch with technology that looks like magic, and likely interfere with human civilization for kicks.

    Hollow Earth, Mars, Hollow Moon, Saturn, take your pick.
     
  18. Low Winter Stun

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    Perhaps the aliens are watching us from their base on 33 Polyhymnia.



    ETA: I suspect that the mass and/or the dimensions of the asteroid have been measured incorrectly due to some systematic error. I tend to give more credence to the size estimates more than the mass estimate, as any perturbing effect on other bodies will be tiny. Even the principal investigator doubted the estimate. It would be interesting to send a probe to the object, just to check. Put the probe into orbit around it and we'd know for certain.
     
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  19. Michael Two Wolves

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    Would love to see someone hot-rod it all the way to earth to put in an L3 orbit way out there and strip mine it, although I'm not sure how we'd make something hard enough to do so...

    Also, I wouldn't really, uh...NASA is um... *shakes head*
     
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  20. publiusr

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    When I watched the first images of the moon Miranda roll in I thought for sure it was absolute proof of ET…that really looked strip-mined.

    Now the idea is that it was very nearly pulverized…but Mimas doesn’t look like that. I would think something more akin to Caloris basin with cracks just going everywhere would have been the result.

    I still half expect an atomic powered alien “Big Muskie” is in a cave there…maybe strip mine a section of a moon that already looks strip-mined so to hide...ET’s Project Azorian.

    Speaking of Caloris…might that dense asteroid be part of planet Mercury that was blown clear?
    From Psyche?
     
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