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Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by F. King Daniel, Apr 23, 2022.

  1. MrPicard

    MrPicard Jean-Luc's Loving Husband Premium Member

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    The whole “later half of the year” for Germany just makes me laugh. I mean what’s their big draw going to be in the “later half of the year”? Prodigy? lol (nothing against it but animated series aren’t exactly THE THING here - SNW should have been the show to launch their service here, it would have been perfect since anything TOS is still recognized here)

    Unless they snatch PIC season 3 from Prime and slam that down in October/November or something and basically advertise it as TNG season 8 “only on Paramount+” I don’t see ANYONE here caring about their streaming service except hardcore Trek fans, and I don’t think there are enough of those left. People here mostly already have Netflix, Prime and/or Disney+. It’s difficult enough to sell them ANOTHER streaming service, so, P+ should make sure they can draw in the Trekkies somehow, and ALL of them, not just the hardcore ones. And TNG season 8 would do that. (I doubt that Bezos is going to let them have PIC tho, if they have a three season agreement with him he’s gonna insist on keeping it since he’s a massive TNG fan.)
     
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  2. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    June 22nd in the UK. I wonder how much Trek it'll actually have on it at launch, due to the deals with Amazon for Picard and LDS.
     
  3. ananta

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    Most the Treks are still on Netflix, too.
    It’s a real shame and missed opportunity that they couldn’t get the launch to match up with SNW premiere.
     
  4. Noname Given

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    I'll bet the P+ launch dates coincide to a degree to when Netflix loses access to the Star Trek it has in those areas (IE Maybe on July 1 TOS et al migrate back to P+ there and are no longer available via Netflix.) Probably part of the contract termination deal.
     
  5. tenmei

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    Do we know if June 22nd will see all of Prodigy and the SNW episodes that far dumped in one go or released weekly?
     
  6. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    One episode a month. Gotta keep that subscriber base as long as possible!
     
  7. Saumyajit

    Saumyajit Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    In India we have it on Voot.

    Prodigy on the other hand is still not available officially per my knowledge.
     
  8. Jax

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    Watch it by any means possible. Paramount don't want my money until June then that's their stupid fault.
     
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  9. Tuskin38

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    Of course they want your money, but rolling out services is probably more complicated than you realize.

    If they could release it now they probably would.

    There's probably contracts and such with other providers they need to wait to run out or negotiate to release early.
     
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  10. Captain Kris Kringle Pike

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    Indeed, there is, and the delay is not preferable for Paramount but such is the nature of business.

    Sorry, I mean booo! Evil Paramount! Boo! :rolleyes:
     
  11. Paul Weaver

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    They made a decision to release it to some people ahead of others. They also made a decision not to sell it via VoD (amazon, apple, etc) like they were forced to do with Discovery after week 1.

    Disney doesn't do that with Mandalorian. Netflix doesn't do that with Bridgerton. Amazon doesn't do it with The Expanse.

    The nature of business, you can't get the money if you don't sell the product.
     
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  12. Andyliini

    Andyliini Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    This is false. Disney absolutely did it with Mandalorian, as it began airing in US before the service was available in most of Europe. And even after it did launch, they still uploaded one episode a week.
     
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  13. Captain Kris Kringle Pike

    Captain Kris Kringle Pike Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    You also have to negotiate with those who allow access to sell the product. This takes time.
     
  14. Paul Weaver

    Paul Weaver Rear Admiral Premium Member

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    Clearly doesn't, they announced Discovery season 4 was available to buy on apple/amazon a week after the netflix outrage.

    Selling video online is trivial, you can sign up on vimeo, upload it, and sell your season for $4 an episode right now. Amazon Prime Video Direct is similar.

    SNW went into production how many years ago?

    They don't want to sell it because they want to use it to launch their streaming service, which would have been great if they had coordinated a global launch of P+ to coincide with SNW and ride the PR wave. They didn't, because they are completely incompetent and have no idea how to market to a global online engaged fandom.

    So we get people outside the US acquiring it elsewhere and the only stuff on youtube are hate videos.

    Paramount/CBS always do this -- they nuked stinsv because of their 1950s view of the world.

    OK, quite possible -- so long ago now, certainly Disney's attraction in the UK when it launched was literally the day after the country was told to stay at home, schools closed, etc. The star wars stuff wasn't part of the initial attraction.
     
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  15. Captain Kris Kringle Pike

    Captain Kris Kringle Pike Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Clearly.

    Oh those evil evil business people.
    So evil.
     
  16. Paul Weaver

    Paul Weaver Rear Admiral Premium Member

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    Just useless. They literally won't take people's money.
     
  17. Captain Kris Kringle Pike

    Captain Kris Kringle Pike Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Oh well. I don't give them my money.

    Someday they'll learn.

    Or not.

    To be blunt I don't care about how businesses run things. They rarely run them the way I would.
     
  18. Tuskin38

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    You're making a lot of assumptions here with no evidence.
     
  19. Captain Kris Kringle Pike

    Captain Kris Kringle Pike Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Don't you know. When business make poor decisions it's clearly because of apathy and incompetence and not potentially because of other factors.
     
  20. Paul Weaver

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    The purpose of a business is to sell stuff for money. Paramount don't do this, and their share price is down 45% in the last 5 years.