He WAS a test pilot and arguably better at that.
When was the NX-01 most likely refitted?
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The crazy part is he must've been an Anakin Skywalker level kid prodigy because separate episodes claim Henry Archer died when Jonathan was 12 yet gave Jonathan flight school advice when he was alive, meaning that Jonathan was attending flight school at 12...
22nd century nepobaby.
So Enterprise never had a refit, that's good because it ruins a beautiful ship. Dave Blass is allowed to have his opinion but it doesn't matter to me, not on screen = not canon.
But if it was used for ceremonial purposes wouldn't that be an argument against a refit? In that case the ship wouldn't need moere power, weapons, speed or anything else a refit would provide and keeping the original look would be more important.
Of course, we already know Archer got the job as CO of the Enterprise due to nepotism because it definitely wasn't because he was a master diplomat, a scientist or anything else that would have qualified him for the mission so he probably was in flight school at 12, screwed up, was told by his dad he was the best and hated the vulcan instructors who pointed out that maybe hitting 5 other shuttles and a tree isn't worthy of praise.
it would be fun to have a novel where Henry Archer actually was a founder of Terra Prime
President Archer, uh, wanted a vanity parade and didn't care how much time and resources were wasted since money and poverty were supposedly abolished in the Federation (never mind that Malcolm Reed apparently was living in a trailer home at this time, at least he had a food synthesizer). Unfortunately Archer's ego had bloated exponentially by the time of his presidency. Phlox was so disgusted by the wasteful parade that he turned on Archer and prevented Denobula from joining the Fed--they weren't going to give up their useful genetic engineering over this nonsense.
I never thought it was refitted pre-war. I always assumed that after it was decommissioned and Archer was promoted to Admiral, he used some of his pull to get Enterprise into the refit program and had it assigned as his “flagship”. Also giving Starfleet the chance to use Enterprise as a testbed for all the new tech before they started refitting Columbia and the rest of the fleet. Kinda sorta like the Space Shuttle Enterprise.
The Iowa-class battleships of the US Navy were recommissioned up to three times each, after extended periods in mothballs. I've no problem believing that the NX-01 was put out of service for several years before being updated and recommissioned as the SS Enterprise for a second full life. Perhaps not as illustrious as her original mission and crew (hence why she doesn't appear as such on her successors' walls), but worthwhile all the same.
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That contradicts multiple sources like Trials and Tribble-ations which say the 1701 is the first Federation shipo named Enterprise
Agreed, but as we all know, even during the 1987-2004 era of Trek, things were quite timey-wimey. I'm sure the INTENT was for NX-01 to be decommissioned by 2161 such that the first FEDERATION ship named Enterprise can come along in 2245 without mucking with our grammar.
Personally, while I have no problem believing the NX-01 enjoyed further years in service, I more strongly believe that she was refit some time before then and the holodeck recreation in TATV was simply inaccurate. Wouldn't be the first time for THAT either.
As for when, for all we know it could have happened days after "Terra Prime". NX-01 spent most of the fourth season closer to home anyway, with lots of visits to founding worlds and taking care of more domestic issues. I can easily believe that NX-01's time in drydock at the beginning included laying the groundwork for the further refit in a year's time, and Enterprise was assigned to missions close enough that she could be recalled for the more extensive work later on.
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Personally, while I have no problem believing the NX-01 enjoyed further years in service, I more strongly believe that she was refit some time before then and the holodeck recreation in TATV was simply inaccurate. Wouldn't be the first time for THAT either.
As for when, for all we know it could have happened days after "Terra Prime". NX-01 spent most of the fourth season closer to home anyway, with lots of visits to founding worlds and taking care of more domestic issues. I can easily believe that NX-01's time in drydock at the beginning included laying the groundwork for the further refit in a year's time, and Enterprise was assigned to missions close enough that she could be recalled for the more extensive work later on.
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Refit Enterprise could have also become a presidential transport, something like Air Force One, or HMY Brittanica, and not a standard Starfleet ship.
Or it did continue to fly after the federation but operated under UESPA and was never inducted into the new Federation Starfleet.
Or it did continue to fly after the federation but operated under UESPA and was never inducted into the new Federation Starfleet.
I'm fine with the idea of the NX-01 being retired after 10 years. That era would have seen rapid technological growth and it makes perfect sense that after 10 years, the ship would be rendered obsolete. This is especially true when you consider the addition of Vulcan, Andorian, and Tellarite technology.
Maybe the space frame just couldn't handle the additional stress. The NX-01 did damn near shake itself to pieces at Warp 5.
THIS is the story I want to see. At some point, the UFP founders must have had their respective engineers get together and design what would have been the first Federation-designed Federation starship. The sheer symbolism of such a ship can't be ignored. I wouldn't mind a series set on that first Federation starship with humans, Andorians, Tellarites, and some Vulcan "advisors" all working together for the first time.
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