As soon as we publicly execute Barney Frank the World will cheer and start spending money like drunken sailors.
That is Fascist thinking.
Nah, he just thinks he's funny. Funny strange, maybe, not funny ha-ha! -- RR
As soon as we publicly execute Barney Frank the World will cheer and start spending money like drunken sailors.
That is Fascist thinking.
Well THAT SUCKS, considering the world is supposed to end in Q1 of 2012.Serious answer: it started right at the end of Q4 2007 (though official figures would say Q3 2008) and is a pretty big recession, so 18-24 months seems about right. That would pitch us to about H1 2010.
However, people don't generally perceive the end of the recession for about another year after that, so people won't really FEEL like the economy is doing well until about Q3 2011 I'm guessing, despite the fact the upturn will come much sooner.
Xmas 2011 will be one hell of a party though.![]()
Well THAT SUCKS, considering the world is supposed to end in Q1 of 2012.
Xmas 2011 will be one hell of a party though.![]()
Well that would be the lagging jobs factor. Although I think Xmas next year will see some up tick.
Right now everyone is saving every dollar they get their hands on. Until that stops nothing is going to change.
That's the problem. In a recession, people pull back on their spending, which is the time they shouldn't. On the same token, it's a great time to get deals on goods and services.To be honest we done our part on the spending as well. We had a preplanned yard project and some kitchen work done.
I have to say it's been really tough writing those checks at the moment, but I know in the macro sense it's good to spread it around.
That's the problem. In a recession, people pull back on their spending, which is the time they shouldn't. On the same token, it's a great time to get deals on goods and services.To be honest we done our part on the spending as well. We had a preplanned yard project and some kitchen work done.
I have to say it's been really tough writing those checks at the moment, but I know in the macro sense it's good to spread it around.
*whistles* And I bet he's a BMF as well.The news agencies are saying around mid-2010 we'll see some restoration of what our economy once was; however, the Business Department of my university is doing a research study on the situation. While we're not a big name school most of the research they've been doing suggests at least mid 2012 before we see growth (the person leading the study is a former professor at the Wharton School of Business who holds a Doctorate in International Economics).
Alot of otherwise hardworking families will end up homeless...or close. I know that alot of upper-middle class families are the ones losing houses right now....can't pay the mortgage after one or both spouses lost their jobs.
And the more that happens, the worse it will get. Because when you have middle class homeless people walking around, it scares the shit out of everyone else.
Well combined with the extension in the stimulus package most people will have about 6 to 7 or more of unemployment.You know, the problem is that if the recession lasts as long as middle of 2010, seems like to me you are gonna see it get worse rather than better. People will have run out of unemployment insurance and basically will be screwed, unless they have a pretty big nest egg with which to pay the mortgage, utilities and put food on the table without any further unemployment insurance help.
Alot of otherwise hardworking families will end up homeless...or close. I know that alot of upper-middle class families are the ones losing houses right now....can't pay the mortgage after one or both spouses lost their jobs.
And the more that happens, the worse it will get. Because when you have middle class homeless people walking around, it scares the shit out of everyone else.
Well combined with the extension in the stimulus package most people will have about 6 to 7 or more of unemployment.You know, the problem is that if the recession lasts as long as middle of 2010, seems like to me you are gonna see it get worse rather than better. People will have run out of unemployment insurance and basically will be screwed, unless they have a pretty big nest egg with which to pay the mortgage, utilities and put food on the table without any further unemployment insurance help.
Alot of otherwise hardworking families will end up homeless...or close. I know that alot of upper-middle class families are the ones losing houses right now....can't pay the mortgage after one or both spouses lost their jobs.
And the more that happens, the worse it will get. Because when you have middle class homeless people walking around, it scares the shit out of everyone else.
What you'll see is a lot of, otherwise us to being highly paid, people taking two or three part time lower pay jobs to see them through. It's been going that way for a while already, but the days of people being picky and holding out for the big paycheck are over for a while. It's going to be a employers market for a couple of years, at least, which is going to drive pay and benefits down across the board.
One thing I'll be surprised to see survive the recession, if it does, will be the concept/practice of "Hire and Fire at will". If things really tank, and I mean harder than they're tanking right now, I can see a push for a federal "Right to work" labor law that'll make it harder for employers to cull employees for little to no cause.
I sure wouldn't hire someone under those conditions and if such a bill came up I'd probably lay as many off as possible before it passed.One thing I'll be surprised to see survive the recession, if it does, will be the concept/practice of "Hire and Fire at will". If things really tank, and I mean harder than they're tanking right now, I can see a push for a federal "Right to work" labor law that'll make it harder for employers to cull employees for little to no cause.
One thing I'll be surprised to see survive the recession, if it does, will be the concept/practice of "Hire and Fire at will". If things really tank, and I mean harder than they're tanking right now, I can see a push for a federal "Right to work" labor law that'll make it harder for employers to cull employees for little to no cause.
Cornell University completed a study which showed the FDR's policies prolonged the Depression by seven years. I believe it was one of his Treasury Secretaries who stated that "no matter how much we spend, nothing has changed". So, you would be wise to learn that FDR's policies DID NOT save the US, as most left leaning types would like us to believe.You know, on a related note, if you listen to the GOP's objections to the stimulus package, it sounds amazingly like what FDR's opponents said about the New Deal. We know how that turned out -- as per usual, the GOP is standing in the way of progress. Nice job, guys. -- RR
Cornell University completed a study which showed the FDR's policies prolonged the Depression by seven years.
Really, it worked? Cornell's is only one of many I've seen that stated it didn't. Want to dig deeper? We were at war in Vietnam when Lyndon Johnson said, "We can have guns and butter" and he launched his "Great Society" policy along with the "War on Poverty". BOTH FAILED.Cornell University completed a study which showed the FDR's policies prolonged the Depression by seven years.![]()
Ah, Cornell.....
One study vs. how many decades of different, non-partisan studies saying it worked?
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