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When did Discovery JUMP the Shark?
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Star Trek Discovery Jumped The Shark right from the start with the Spore Drive. Really? Mushrooms can teleport you across the galaxy? I think someone did too many 'Shrooms while writing it.
Warp Drive was an actual scientific concept from JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory), who were consultants on the original Star Trek.
Where did the Spore Drive idea come from? They may as well have based it on Sapporo beer from Japan and called it the Sapporo Drive. Although using beer as a fuel for Space Propulsion is an idea called the Hopps Drive.
Then there's the Red Angel suit. Which Manga did that come from? If you put five of them together does it create Voltron?
All in all, I've always thought Discovery was great Science Fiction. Just not good Star Trek. But Star Trek has always had some wiggle room to it.
Warp Drive was an actual scientific concept from JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory), who were consultants on the original Star Trek.
Where did the Spore Drive idea come from? They may as well have based it on Sapporo beer from Japan and called it the Sapporo Drive. Although using beer as a fuel for Space Propulsion is an idea called the Hopps Drive.
Then there's the Red Angel suit. Which Manga did that come from? If you put five of them together does it create Voltron?
All in all, I've always thought Discovery was great Science Fiction. Just not good Star Trek. But Star Trek has always had some wiggle room to it.
Can we get a definition?
Discovery is a lot like Enterprise for me. Season 2 was where I dropped off for both only to pick it up later on. The reboot helped a lot. Also what the show actually does best is some character moments here and there that's top quality in Season 3 and 4. Actually this is the modern Star Trek writer's strong suit it seems, certainly not the plots and narratives. The latest episode, episode 4 of season 5 had a very satisfying ending because the character moments really delivered like they were supposed to. The new number one is very good at reading people, and that's one way to connect to others and he used his ability to do that. So he actually took in criticism, and applied it. That's top quality stuff so the show hasn't jumped the shark if it can still deliver on something. Sure it's no DS9 or TNG when it was hitting on all cylinders but I'll watch it.
Rayner's really making me wish the fifth season wasn't the last.
I'm sure SFA will be great, but I seriously would've preferred DSC Seasons 6 and 7.
I'm sure SFA will be great, but I seriously would've preferred DSC Seasons 6 and 7.
If Rayner were around for a DISCO season 6 and 7, I'd be for that. But only if they moved to episodic. Arcs are not this show's strong suit.
I know some things, but I'll keep quiet.
Jumping the Shark implies a sudden turn for the worse. As far as I can tell, DIS didn't really do that. Nor did it grow the beard. It simply presented a product that some viewers liked and others didn't care for. And, opinions on which season was best and worst seem to vary quite a bit.
Happy Days jumped the shark. But I don't know of any Trek series that did.
Happy Days jumped the shark. But I don't know of any Trek series that did.
Yeah but they'll find twenty other things to lazily call 'Woke' without further elaboration.
Cause Trek shows get their crappy seasons out of the way at the start.
All of the complaints define what makes bad Trek. Some of the complaints suck on their own, but that seems to happen when coupled with The Internet. But the more complaints there are about the same thing, the more likely that what's being complained about actually sucks.
Although I watched the first 2 seasons of Discovery and could not figure out what was supposed to be "Woke" about it.
Every time you say woke, a gay angel creates another drag queen.
It is entirely possible to tear Disco a new one without any reference to woke.
You have to understand that this is an echo chamber - one that has made deflection into an art form over the years and bludgeoned any diverse or meaningful debate. The majority of complaints against the show are perfectly valid.
I agree with this - for better or worse, Discovery has been more or less the same since day one. There's no big moment where the show got much better or much worse.
Don't wait for the translation, answer me now!
I wouldn't be surprised if he moves to SFA as like a field instructor or something. The kids are going to need a professor Xavier, after all.
Yep. I haven't lost my love for Star Trek itself due to the modern series - indeed, they have enhanced it - but I have certainly lost pretty much all enjoyment I have from the fandom.
There were many fans against Disco from even before it premiered, often openly expressing their bigotry. It had always been a part of Trek fandom, the sort of people who complained about the kiss in Rejoined and sent hate mail over the mere rumour of a gay character in Voyager, but never had they been so open about it.
Then there is the tribalism, where people can't just talk up the shows they like, but have to go out of their way to try to attack others and even revel in their perceived failures. Again, nothing new to Trek, but just so pervasive these days.
It's no wonder that the franchise has stagnated for so many years. I have loved Trek for decades and I don't want to be part of the fandom. Why would someone new to it want to be?
Aside from TOS... that one did kind of go downhill in S3, but Fonzie hadn't jumped the shark yet.
It's a term that means different things for different people. For some, mere cast diversity is enough.
I woke up early this morni... OH CRAP! I just created another one!
It was kind of inevitable, when you think about it. Homophobia has been pushed back, but it's far from gone.
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That doesn't answer my question.
