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When did canon become such a hot-button issue?

Kinda makes sense, but words change. "Canon" may not've meant "lore" at one time, but I think the shift has happened and it's too late to back peddle

The problem is that the "shift" in usage has created nothing but confusion. Fandom embraces a thousand myths about what canon is and how it works. I've encountered people who genuinely believe that there's some guy at a desk at Paramount/CBS whose entire job is to apply some official stamp of "CANON" to something before it qualifies as genuine Star Trek, and are startled to learn that there is no such thing, that the word is merely descriptive rather than proscriptive.

And then there are the fans who have become so preoccupied with the question of whether the label should be attached to one work or another that they forget that the really important question is whether the story is good and enjoyable. The people who seem to forget that this is fiction, who are preoccupied with what parts of a made-up universe are "real" and denounce anything outside that as if it were heresy or fraud rather than just an alternative take on an imaginary concept.

Words changing is fine. But if a word is used as a bludgeon or believed to mean something totally unreal and delusional, then that's not healthy. Fans have attached so much toxic baggage to the concept of "canon" that the label merely gets in the way of any meaningful discussion of fiction. A word that changes in a harmful or misleading way is a problem.

What we need to do is demystify the word, get over the myth that it's some kind of value judgment or official seal of approval. Let it go back to being what it was supposed to be, just a metaphor for describing something about stories. Then there'd be no harm in letting its usage shift.
 
How bout "deuterocanonical"

A fun but somewhat circular and unwieldy synonym for secondary lore: the Chronology and Encyclopedia conjectures, TNG and DS9 tech manuals, Sternbach’s Technical Database articles, the Haynes BoP manual…
 
A fun but somewhat circular and unwieldy synonym for secondary lore: the Chronology and Encyclopedia conjectures, TNG and DS9 tech manuals, Sternbach’s Technical Database articles, the Haynes BoP manual…
"Legends"?
 
No, not really.

Lore would suggest that the material itself cannot be contradicted.

Clearly it can.
Why?

Merriam Webster said:
lore
noun (1)
\ ˈlȯr \
Definition of lore
(Entry 1 of 2)

1: a particular body of knowledge or traditionthe lore of baseball heroes
2: something that is learned:
a: traditional knowledge or belieftribal lore
b: knowledge gained through study or experiencethe lore of religious architecture
Both "lore" and "Canon" imply a continuity, and neither imply a complete lack of contradictions. Contradictions are often subjective and open to interpretation anyway.
 
Synonyms for "lore" in this context(a collection of stories) are folklore, legend, mythology, mythos, and tradition.
 
@Prax Indeed, which is a far more fitting response than the definitions.

However do any of those also have legal status in terms of what is officially a part of the body of work? Do intellectual property rights apply to them?
 
@Prax Indeed, which is a far more fitting response than the definitions.

However do any of those also have legal status in terms of what is officially a part of the body of work? Do intellectual property rights apply to them?
Negative. Who started calling the body of Star Trek on screen material "Canon" anyway? Gene?
 
Negative. Who started calling the body of Star Trek on screen material "Canon" anyway? Gene?

The use of "canon" as a metaphor for the authentic, collective works of a specific author goes back centuries, e.g. "the Shakespeare canon." Its use by literary critics and fans in the sense of the "authentic" stories in an ongoing continuity as distinct from apocryphal or derivative works by other authors goes back at least as far as the Sherlock Holmes series.

But yes, it's fair to say that fandom's fixation on the word "canon" didn't really take off until Roddenberry & Richard Arnold's 1989 memo in which they attempted to define their view of what Trek canon included and excluded. Neither man had any real control over the franchise itself at that point, since Roddenberry had been eased back to a mostly ceremonial role; the memo was only really binding on the tie-ins, and only as long as Arnold was responsible for approving them. But fandom believed it was authoritative, and bought into its pretense that canon was an official stamp of approval and a standard defined by what it excluded or rejected.
 
Negative. Who started calling the body of Star Trek on screen material "Canon" anyway? Gene?

So there is indeed a distinction between the officially recognised "canon" or published material and the wider "lore" which is merely a collection of ideas in the public consciousness?
 
The use of "canon" as a metaphor for the authentic, collective works of a specific author goes back centuries, e.g. "the Shakespeare canon." Its use by literary critics and fans in the sense of the "authentic" stories in an ongoing continuity as distinct from apocryphal or derivative works by other authors goes back at least as far as the Sherlock Holmes series.

But yes, it's fair to say that fandom's fixation on the word "canon" didn't really take off until Roddenberry & Richard Arnold's 1989 memo in which they attempted to define their view of what Trek canon included and excluded. Neither man had any real control over the franchise itself at that point, since Roddenberry had been eased back to a mostly ceremonial role; the memo was only really binding on the tie-ins, and only as long as Arnold was responsible for approving them. But fandom believed it was authoritative, and bought into its pretense that canon was an official stamp of approval and a standard defined by what it excluded or rejected.

I will say it's probably useful to have, esp. nowadays with all the extra universe stuff and all. It's good to know what the owners of the franchise consider canon. But it's more useful to you guys who work on tie ins.

To complicate things a bit there are different levels of the franchise. What I mean is we have the canon--I think that's pretty much everything shown on screen that's official by the studio such as the various shows and movies. Then there's tie ins, novels, comic-books and gaming. Those I guess you can say are officially recognized but not part of the canon. Then, finally, there's the unofficial--fan made films and fan written stories--that are no recognized by the studio.

In a way, I'm sort of surprised we are arguing about what is 'canon'. I'm pretty sure what is considered Star Trek canon these days is pretty well defined. It's what's on screen by the studio (CBS or Paramount--I guess soon to be all Paramount once again). As far as I know there's no ambiguity about that.

Apocrypha then

I think I would just simply call them 'tie-ins'. I think that nicely sums up what novels and comics are. You could probably call them extra-universe works, but that's a bit more wordy.
 
So there is indeed a distinction between the officially recognised "canon" or published material and the wider "lore" which is merely a collection of ideas in the public consciousness?
officially? I think probably not. In practice? Yes, to varying degrees. I have no idea concerning the books. The books are expanding on what was on screen, but not vice versa, or at best, carrying over minor references that may have originated in certain books written by, or known to the screenwriter.

Take TOS. The show airs, and because of its popularity, expands into novels, comics, games, etc. This material is all building a continuity with what was on the show, filling in all the blanks, creating an expanded universe.
Then the next show comes along, and generally adheres to what was established in the earlier show, but not the books. And new books will be written taking into account both shows, but not necessarily those older books that were written earlier. For the books, there are continual reimaginings with each new on-screen production, while the shows are all building off each other.
I’m so glad this thread is back.

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