A horrible movie and two hours of my life I won't be getting back thankyouverymuch. "The Good Shepherd" was much better.
Whatever Happened to the Equinox Survivors?
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A horrible movie and two hours of my life I won't be getting back thankyouverymuch. "The Good Shepherd" was much better.
Now imagine if an hour and a half into Dead Poets Society that Nazi's attacked the school.
Yes, a truly horrible movie.
Yes, a truly horrible movie.
Yes, because whether or not Dead Poets society was a good movie, has a lot to do with the crew of the Equinox, doesn't it? .... And I'm the one with a warning for 'trolling'. Nice.
ANYWAY, BACK TO THE SUBJECT OF THE THREAD.
I would have liked to see the surviving crew of the Equinox take on re-occurring appearances. It would have been interesting to see some of the higher bridge officers being assigned to lo lesser duties as part of their punishment for obeying unlawful orders. It would have added to the show quite a bit. There could have also been some tension between Paris and BeLanna's 'old friend'.
ANYWAY, BACK TO THE SUBJECT OF THE THREAD.
I would have liked to see the surviving crew of the Equinox take on re-occurring appearances. It would have been interesting to see some of the higher bridge officers being assigned to lo lesser duties as part of their punishment for obeying unlawful orders. It would have added to the show quite a bit. There could have also been some tension between Paris and BeLanna's 'old friend'.
I'd rather have explosions than Seska and Kulla.
I wonder what happened after the return? Was there a Equinox inquiry at Starfleet?
Unfortunately, we never got to see anything like that. The show just stopped when they reached the alpha quadrant. Which was a total mistake by the writers.
No, he was not.
Overall, I think it is a shame that Equinox survivors were not utilized in scripts after the Equinox episodes. I would have loved to see how they adjusted on Voyager and how they would have interacted with the other crew and perhaps with Janeway, too. Something like what was written in 'Distant Shores'.
Why would there be a noticeable process of adjustment?
From the POV of the Voyagerites, Ransom's crew had been no different from yer weekly alien threat: they had shot at the hero ship, but hadn't actually killed anybody or done any outstanding damage, and at the end of the episode they had been subjugated. They had given the Federation a bad name in certain circles, but that happens more often than not - and the circles involved weren't particularly relevant to the future of any of these people.
From the POV of the Equinoxians, Janeway's crew were their saviors, and hardly responsible for what had happened to their fellow crew under Ransom's final moments of command. The Maquis would tell them that a few years of quiet conformity would earn them a get-out-of-jail card, with no apparent downsides.
If anything, the Equinoxians would have had easier time adapting than, say, Seven who was a former Starfleet blood enemy, or Neelix who was a local alien with alien mores, or somebody like Amelia Earhart who was a freak from a barbaric past. Both "sides" would have tall Starfleet stories to tell while they shared a holo-drink or thirteen. And Ransom's people would have less bad blood vis-á-vis the Maquis than Janeway's, having never been assigned on an insurgent hunt...
Timo Saloniemi
From the POV of the Voyagerites, Ransom's crew had been no different from yer weekly alien threat: they had shot at the hero ship, but hadn't actually killed anybody or done any outstanding damage, and at the end of the episode they had been subjugated. They had given the Federation a bad name in certain circles, but that happens more often than not - and the circles involved weren't particularly relevant to the future of any of these people.
From the POV of the Equinoxians, Janeway's crew were their saviors, and hardly responsible for what had happened to their fellow crew under Ransom's final moments of command. The Maquis would tell them that a few years of quiet conformity would earn them a get-out-of-jail card, with no apparent downsides.
If anything, the Equinoxians would have had easier time adapting than, say, Seven who was a former Starfleet blood enemy, or Neelix who was a local alien with alien mores, or somebody like Amelia Earhart who was a freak from a barbaric past. Both "sides" would have tall Starfleet stories to tell while they shared a holo-drink or thirteen. And Ransom's people would have less bad blood vis-á-vis the Maquis than Janeway's, having never been assigned on an insurgent hunt...
Timo Saloniemi
I'm not so sure about the friendly "we're all humans" pat on the back thing... In my opinion, Janeway would regard the Equinox survivors with equal or greater disdain than Sisko viewed Eddington. These people went along with committing genocide in order to get home quicker.
They weren't quite typical Enemy of the Week fare as they stuck around after the event, and they are indirectly responsible for fatalities on Janeway's ship when they steal the forcefield generator.
True, Seven was a blood enemy of the Federation, but that was against her will and she had no control over her actions. These people were actually members of Starfleet. In Janeway's eyes (and in the eyes of some of the crew, I'd imagine), they'd be an affront to everything Starfleet, the Federation and humans stand for.
You could argue that the Maquis should have been treated the same way, but the Maquis had a cause fighting the Cardassians after the Federation seemingly abandoned them, and they also showed willingness and ability to work with Janeway right from the off. None of Ransom's crew opted to stay in captivity on Voyager when the EMH staged a jailbreak, and they did have that choice - especially seeing as tho Gilmore (and probably others) is glad Voyager has intervened at one point.
Really, in an ideal universe, the writers would've played on this for all it was worth and add an interesting dynamic between Starfleet, Maquis-turned-Starfleet and Starfleet-turned-rogue-turned-Starfleet
Alas, it wasn't to be.
Really, in an ideal universe, the writers would've played on this for all it was worth and add an interesting dynamic between Starfleet, Maquis-turned-Starfleet and Starfleet-turned-rogue-turned-Starfleet
I agree 100%. In my book it was another missed opportunity like the Vaadwaur. I would have rather watched two episodes about Equinox survivors than Fair Haven, which was simply ridiculous.
Janeway having a hologram toyboy? Riiight...
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