Domestic is sometimes competetive. But worldwide Bond always beats Star Trek. That's kind of important if you remember Bond is not an American franchise.
What would you recommend for ST4 to top $500 million box office?
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Domestic is sometimes competetive. But worldwide Bond always beats Star Trek. That's kind of important if you remember Bond is not an American franchise.
And both franchises in 2002 had the last movie in their respective original continuity become critical flops, and precipitate a total reboot. Die Another Day, and Nemesis. Except that DAD wasn't a commercial flop as well, and did make money. And Nemesis was a disaster financially
that's quite true and the Craig/nuTrek films follow a similar path -
1 = critically acclaimed reboot/bigger than ever hit. 2 = less acclaimed/series&characters still not 'fully formed' by the end. 3 = fully formed adventure/50th ann, but the similarities swiftly end when it comes to the box office
MAKE IT SO!
IMHO, I just don't think you'll ever see Star Trek be the blockbuster franchise Paramount has been trying to morph it into with the Kelvin Timeline films. It just isn't popular enough with the general audience. It has a passionate fanbase, but it'll always be a genre/niche franchise.
Star Trek Beyond was a fantastic movie, but it'll barely break even when it's all said and done. I know plans for a Star Trek 4 were announced prior to the release of Beyond, but I have to think they're at least reconsidering at this point. But then again, what do I know? I'm just a dork posting on the innerwebs.
I'm not trying to poop on the original post, I'm just giving my honest opinion. =)
I hope someday I'm proven wrong and a Star Trek movie brings in $800 million!
Star Trek Beyond was a fantastic movie, but it'll barely break even when it's all said and done. I know plans for a Star Trek 4 were announced prior to the release of Beyond, but I have to think they're at least reconsidering at this point. But then again, what do I know? I'm just a dork posting on the innerwebs.
I'm not trying to poop on the original post, I'm just giving my honest opinion. =)
I hope someday I'm proven wrong and a Star Trek movie brings in $800 million!
my god man, what would a trek movie have to do to gross 800m!?
maybe a $300m massive Federation v Klingon war film with Khan in there too, then halfway through the Borg show up!
Star Trek Armageddon. starring Harrison Ford (head of Starfleet), Arnold Schwarzegger (Klingon emperor), The Rock (Kruge), Michael Fassbender (Chang), Liam Neeson (Gorkon), Tom Hanks (Commodore Decker), Tom Cruise (Captain Garth), Samuel L Jackson (Dr Daystrom), Kate Beckinsale (Borg Queen), Megan Fox (Savvik), Will Smith (Captain Terrell), Ralph Finnes (Dr Soran). and all the nuCast & Benedict Cumberbatch as Khan. with William Shatner as Kirk Prime and the TNG cast in extended cameos. written and directed by James Cameron & JJ Abrams
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Basically a story that shows the crew on their own and not saving a bunch of earth civilians and federation personnel after having failed to stop the villain yet again. I would also like to see a much better villain. One that is totally alien and powerful. Maybe a godlike or near godlike threat deep in space or better yet a Gary Mitchel remake story with Gary getting his powers but actually causing death on a planetary scale and Kirk and crew having to stop him. Basically put more focus on a tight story and not so many explosions and destruction or damage on the Enterprise. For a ship that is supposed to be a flagship of the federation the NuEnterprise kept getting its butt kicked. Maybe the A will do better.
That wouldn't gross 800 million--it would COST 800 million.
All of that, and John Williams providing the score. Hey, Trek gave Wars JJ Abrams, it's time Wars gave something back! j/k
Williams's best days are behind him. I'll take What is a Giacchino for $1000, Alex.
Apparently they're committed to a 4th but after that I say they let it rest (briefly) and then reboot in a cerebral direction, sort of like the gap between the last Burton-verse Batman Movie and Batman Begins. Get a real auteur with something intelligent to say in there rather than a popcorn director and hope for crossover appeal rather than going for pew pew.
That would truly take Trek where no Trek has gone before.
Strait into direct to video territory.
C'mon guys. You don't think say... Gus Van Sant directing STB in the style of 'Gerry,' would sell well with Trekkies?
That's the thing about hardcore 'auteurs' - its all about their vision. 'Spirit of Star Trek' and associated whatnot probably wouldn't be anywhere on the priority list.
Come to think of it, the actual definition of an auteur is just a director with a sort-of stylistic 'fingerprint' that's overwhelmingly unique and instantly attributable to them. There's no stipulations about actual artistic 'quality' or 'depth' in there. Bring on John Woo and Michael Bay!
That's the thing about hardcore 'auteurs' - its all about their vision. 'Spirit of Star Trek' and associated whatnot probably wouldn't be anywhere on the priority list.
Come to think of it, the actual definition of an auteur is just a director with a sort-of stylistic 'fingerprint' that's overwhelmingly unique and instantly attributable to them. There's no stipulations about actual artistic 'quality' or 'depth' in there. Bring on John Woo and Michael Bay!
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I'm with Ovation on this one... Adding only that Paramount take the Enterprise 1701 seriously, design and character. An please keep Abrams away from anything to do with Star Trek.
-Chuck
Agreed.
C'mon guys. You don't think say... Gus Van Sant directing STB in the style of 'Gerry,' would sell well with Trekkies?
That's the thing about hardcore 'auteurs' - its all about their vision. 'Spirit of Star Trek' and associated whatnot probably wouldn't be anywhere on the priority list.
Come to think of it, the actual definition of an auteur is just a director with a sort-of stylistic 'fingerprint' that's overwhelmingly unique and instantly attributable to them. There's no stipulations about actual artistic 'quality' or 'depth' in there. Bring on John Woo and Michael Bay!
"Spirit of Star Trek" doesn't mean anything. It's fannish cant.
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