Years before Andromeda was finally made but probably around the same time that Gene Roddenberry first came up with the idea.
What would be your idea of a perfect science fiction series?
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Did Gene's ideas go beyond Genesis II and Planet Earth? I didn't think he ever had a ship-based Dylan Hunt in mind -- I thought RHW and the others came up with that. Still, if Gene did conceive it that way, I agree it was around the same time.
Actually, Andromeda was loosely based on a Gene Roddenberry concept unrelated to Genesis II, but RHW just recycled the name Dylan Hunt as an homage.
I'd like a show(sort of a reverse Fugitive) about a cop searching for an Enemy of the State-a factional leader, almost a legend, in a rebellious movement against the government. Each week he would pursue his target, slowly discovering the rot at the heart of society and coming(eventually ) to a gray area where he begins to believe the society needs to be changed even as he fights for upholding the law of the land. The kicker would be, this society is an almost totalitarian version of the British Empire, the rebels would be part of the American Movement for Independence (think Sinn Fein or ULA) and his only clue to the man known as Johnny Hancock would be a mysterious coin-a quarter dollar piece featuring the face of George Washington, one of the executed leaders of the First American Rebellion.
I would watch it.
Depending on the tone.
Andromeda's tone? Probably not. Star Blazers tone? Probably yes.
Thanks for the vote!
Ha, that concept does have quite a bit of Star Blazers in it, doesn't it? I never noticed.
Wow, I like this. Does the quarter mean there was some kind of crossover with the real world -- as in, Johnny Hancock came from here and started a rebellion there?
I can see the "Fugitive" aspect lasting for the whole first season, and ending with kind of an epiphany for the main character as far as that gray area is concerned. In the second season, I can see him forming an uneasy relationship with Johnny or the AMI, with shifting alliances and so on. He might be forced to work with them occasionally for larger goals even though they're still officially fugitives, or he might be forced to pursue them even though he actually sympathizes.
This is a pretty volatile situation, though, so I can't see that sort of thing lasting beyond another season. Eventually you'd have to shake things up again-- either the rebellion would turn into total war, or the AMI would be beaten into submission and forced to start over, or some such thing.
Ok, imagine something like Babylon 5, but then, in the sixth season, Sheridan starts to become an authoritarian even worse than Clark, and Ivanova and co must take up arms against them. That.
And Garibaldi moves on to hard drugs and Franklin becomes a pedophile.
As has been said, Babylon 5 & Farscape were pretty close to perfect.
But in this day & age of big-ass flatscreen TVs and HD feeds, I think Ringworld could work as a TV series (on a commercial-free network)! You could even take side-trips into the other Known Space stories to fill in the background.
I mean, if nobody's gonna make a movie (they're all waiting for Niven to die, methinks), somebody could at least give us that final approach to the Ringworld in IMAX! That'd make a really cool 40-minute experience: watching the apparent curvature flatten out as we approach the rim!
But in this day & age of big-ass flatscreen TVs and HD feeds, I think Ringworld could work as a TV series (on a commercial-free network)! You could even take side-trips into the other Known Space stories to fill in the background.
I mean, if nobody's gonna make a movie (they're all waiting for Niven to die, methinks), somebody could at least give us that final approach to the Ringworld in IMAX! That'd make a really cool 40-minute experience: watching the apparent curvature flatten out as we approach the rim!
Here some notes I had laying around from an old concept...:
Stellar Genesis
It is the 22nd century. Mankind has expanded into the stars, joining with a number of other civilizations into the AQ, or Allied Quadrants, a benign loose confederation of worlds and solar systems who believe in mutual exploration and existence in the cosmos; among these are the Splicers, or Homo Puteus-Constructum, a type of humanity called “Posthumans” who have genetically-engineered for differing tasks, resulting in a number of sub-species rising naturally, including deep-space mining casts, a warrior casts, a scientist cast, an exploratory cast, and so on. Engaged in a sort-of cold war for the past several decades with the AQ is the Ithros Conglomerate, a decadent and vile group concerned only with expanding their own material wealth, lead by the evil Derriar, a race which were once humanoid but have mutated over generations into hulking monstrosities due to the pollution of their home world. The Ithros buy out entire star systems wholesale, forming alliances with corrupt governments or simply invading, subjecting entire populations to forced labor camps.
The conflict between the AQ and the Ithros has reached a stalemate; known space is divided into the Six Sectors, which are then sub-divided into Quadrants; Earth and the AQ occupy most of Sectors 3 and 4, while the Ithros holds the massive Sector Six, while there a number of non-aligned races as well. The new adventure begins when AQ scientists test a new LBB (Light-Barrier-Breaching) Drive, called Solar Drive, which derives it energy from the light of the stars themselves; they accidently discover a whole new area of space, Sector Seven, which starts a new Territory Race between the AQ and the Ithros; the AQ want to make as many new allies as possible, to try and form a defense against the Ithros who will again usurp and overtake entire star systems, either through coercion or force. As a number of characters descend on Sector Seven, they find that among many alien wonders, many of the new worlds are occupied by Humans, taken from Earth many centuries ago by the First Ones, the first sentient race in the universe, and there are also many evolved dinosaurs and prehistoric creatures from Ancient Earth. As the AQ and Ithros race to uncover why the First Ones took species from Earth, and the secret of the First race, it becomes clear that the adventure to master the secrets of Sector Seven is on!
Stellar Genesis
It is the 22nd century. Mankind has expanded into the stars, joining with a number of other civilizations into the AQ, or Allied Quadrants, a benign loose confederation of worlds and solar systems who believe in mutual exploration and existence in the cosmos; among these are the Splicers, or Homo Puteus-Constructum, a type of humanity called “Posthumans” who have genetically-engineered for differing tasks, resulting in a number of sub-species rising naturally, including deep-space mining casts, a warrior casts, a scientist cast, an exploratory cast, and so on. Engaged in a sort-of cold war for the past several decades with the AQ is the Ithros Conglomerate, a decadent and vile group concerned only with expanding their own material wealth, lead by the evil Derriar, a race which were once humanoid but have mutated over generations into hulking monstrosities due to the pollution of their home world. The Ithros buy out entire star systems wholesale, forming alliances with corrupt governments or simply invading, subjecting entire populations to forced labor camps.
The conflict between the AQ and the Ithros has reached a stalemate; known space is divided into the Six Sectors, which are then sub-divided into Quadrants; Earth and the AQ occupy most of Sectors 3 and 4, while the Ithros holds the massive Sector Six, while there a number of non-aligned races as well. The new adventure begins when AQ scientists test a new LBB (Light-Barrier-Breaching) Drive, called Solar Drive, which derives it energy from the light of the stars themselves; they accidently discover a whole new area of space, Sector Seven, which starts a new Territory Race between the AQ and the Ithros; the AQ want to make as many new allies as possible, to try and form a defense against the Ithros who will again usurp and overtake entire star systems, either through coercion or force. As a number of characters descend on Sector Seven, they find that among many alien wonders, many of the new worlds are occupied by Humans, taken from Earth many centuries ago by the First Ones, the first sentient race in the universe, and there are also many evolved dinosaurs and prehistoric creatures from Ancient Earth. As the AQ and Ithros race to uncover why the First Ones took species from Earth, and the secret of the First race, it becomes clear that the adventure to master the secrets of Sector Seven is on!
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