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What would a dark and gritty "Orville" looked like?

Or it could be the other way around: the ISS Orville might dispense with ALL comedic elements and play everything completely straight. As I said, NOT dark & gritty, just totally serious.

That's possible though I wonder if McFarlande has it in him. Giving up on comedy is a hard thing to do. I also thought of something else They could do a musical episode. I could totally see them using a mirror universe to do their own "Once More With Feeling" because we know McFarlande likes musical numbers. Heck they even kind of set it up with Bortus and the singing, bit.

Jason
 
That's possible though I wonder if McFarlande has it in him. Giving up on comedy is a hard thing to do. I also thought of something else They could do a musical episode. I could totally see them using a mirror universe to do their own "Once More With Feeling" because we know McFarlande likes musical numbers. Heck they even kind of set it up with Bortus and the singing, bit.

Jason
They wouldn't even need to do it as an alternate universe, all they would need to do is either visit a planet where people only communicate through song, or maybe it's a effect from some kind of anomaly or something.
 
That's possible though I wonder if McFarlande has it in him. Giving up on comedy is a hard thing to do. I also thought of something else They could do a musical episode. I could totally see them using a mirror universe to do their own "Once More With Feeling" because we know McFarlande likes musical numbers. Heck they even kind of set it up with Bortus and the singing, bit.

Jason


I've had the priviledge of seeing a Trek episode done as a musical once. A local school's theatre group had put on a musical version of Frame of Mind, I kid you not. They went all out by dressing the hallways to look like the ship's corridors, and having officers escort you down the 'turbolift' to the amphitheatre, which itself was dressed up to look like the Bridge.
 
I'll admit, when they do the inevitable alternate universe episode, having it be grim-dark where instead of being evil with goatees the crew are depressing, hate each other and have omnipresent stubble covering their faces. Basically, they go nu-BSG for a week.
 
How many threads about Orville do we need on here btw? I still don't get why there needs to be one for every episode, rather than an ongoing thread like every other show in this forum. Never mind all the other ones like this, "Orville is renewed", "Orville keeps getting better and better." Yeah, cool story bro.
 
How many threads about Orville do we need on here btw? I still don't get why there needs to be one for every episode, rather than an ongoing thread like every other show in this forum. Never mind all the other ones like this, "Orville is renewed", "Orville keeps getting better and better." Yeah, cool story bro.

I imagine that's because people are really interested in it. Go figure. :shrug:
 
What if Seth had chosen to go this route. Maybe in a alternate universe he was more inspired by "Aliens", "Terminator" "RoboCop" etc than Trek when coming up with the show
Plausible.
1 Captain Mercer A man recovering from a year long drug and alcohol bender after doing the whole Nick Cage thing in "Leaving Las Vegas" after finding out his wife has cheated on him with his best friend Mallory but inside of dying he is called back into duty and given command because war has broken out.
This is okay, but I think the role of Mercer would need to be re-cast in order to handle the drama. Also, because of circumstances, he's not sure of his feelings for Grayson.
2 CMDR Grayson: She tried to keep him from command by blackmailing the Admiral because she wanted to be captain but he was able to not be brought down. Instead of sending her to prison he makes her first officer because she is still one of the best military experts in the fleet.
The blackmailing is too MU-ish. So, no blackmail. In addition to her cheating with Mallory, have her lose Mercer's child in a drowning accident of something, which naturally, puts a strain on the marriage, which then leads to the affair with Mallory. Also, she's still very much in love with Mercer.
3 Mallory: Assigned to the chip even if his former friend didn't want it. He deals with a intense sexual perversion of drawling penises all over things and very anti social behavior. He gets a robotic leg in the pilot after robot Issac cuts it off as a joke. Mallory uses his robotic leg in action scenes often kicking people to bloody deaths.
Too over the top. Have Mallory lose the leg in a duty accident and have it replaced with a robotic appendage. Also, he is still in love with Grayson but also respects Mercer, at least professionally.
4Dr Finn: Abandoned her kids a few years ago to follow her dream of making big bucks as a Doctor. Takes job as CMO even if it's beneath her talents simply because she was paid a huge amount of money.
Abandon her children for money? No. Have her story be that earlier in her career she participates in a Union attempt to save a dying race which accidently speeds up their deaths. Though not her fault, Finn holds herself responsible for genocide and is wracked with guilt and shame. She is on Orville, which is not a demotion, but is not nearly the level she should be on. She still loves and cherishes her kids who are the only thing holding her together. More like Doc Cottle than Beverly Crusher.
5 Bortus: Killed his husband when his husband didn't want their baby to have gender alteration surgery. Nobody knows, except the viewers that he is a murderer. Bortus is friendly around people but when he is alone you can see that he has some Dexter Morgan tendencies that he hides from the crew.
Again, too MU-ish. Have Bortus on Orville with his husband illegally (per Bortus' people's law) raising their little girl. Make Bortus' people more sinister and high profile. They suspect Bortus and hubby of some shenanigans with their child but need to prove it. His people believe that women are so inferior that they should all be erased from existence, but they know this is impossible. So they hide their prejudice.
6 Alara: Takes a alien version of steroids to maintain super strength like others on her planet though she was born without it, which happens from time to time with people of her species. Because of the drugs she has intense mood swings.
No, Alara's strength is natural, but she is more troubled by her parents treatment and acts out in different ways. My understanding is that she is only stronger while on planets with less gravity.
7 LaMarr: Child prodigy who flamed out at a young age and has chosen the life of being a ordinary pilot. Very shy around people and doesn't know how to connect with them. I am thinking William H Macy in "Magnolia."
This, I like.
8 Issac: A robot from a robotic race that is the shows main villians and who they are at war with. Issac was abducted and re-programed to serve the ship. He has no free will and is treated like a tool.
I like this, except I might make Isaac and his people exist only digitally. But if they do have bodies, make them look more ironic, like the Cybermen on Doctor Who and less like Robbie the Robot on Lost in Space.
9 Yaphit: The the movie blob he devours lifeforms to eat. You will see him constantly absorbing cats,dogs,monkeys etc or whatever he can to eat. He is afraid to be around the Doctor because he is married but has feelings for as well.
I think it's hard to do a good drama with this character. I would eliminate him.
 
How many threads about Orville do we need on here btw? I still don't get why there needs to be one for every episode, rather than an ongoing thread like every other show in this forum. Never mind all the other ones like this, "Orville is renewed", "Orville keeps getting better and better." Yeah, cool story bro.

I agree. If only there was a forum dedicated to just "Orville" to talk about it.;)

Jason
 
Macfarlane got to do a mirror universe episode, or turn in his Trek nerd card.

Actually when I made my thread I actually wondered if we might see something like that when they do eventually do a mirror universe story. My money though is on Grayson having a beard. Seems like something that would fit in with McFarlande style humor.

That would be funny. I think they all will have goatees, including Isaac.
 
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