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What were the proposed ideas for a new series?

ReadyAndWilling

Fleet Captain
After Enterprise, what type of show could they have developed?

It seemed like they explored so many different themes with the 5 shows.

I would have loved to see a Romulan on board, as part of the crew: a real Romulan, not a spy.

Other than that, it seemed like all of the avenues had been explored.

What do you guys think?

Does anyone know what the plans or ideas were for a show after Enterprise, if Enterprise had lasted longer and a new show had been confirmed?
 
I'm not sure in honesty, but I think the low ratings of Enterprise (as well as DS9/Voyager to be fair) had turned Paramount off a new TV series for the while.

Besides, the time-line in Trek changed after the 2009 movie, so the entire 24th century series may not exist, or even if they did wouldn't exist in the same form.

I thought personally that pre 2009 movie, a 25th century series would be good, focusing more on good relations between the Romulans and the Federation, and learning more about species such as the Gorn, Tzenkethi, etc. Now with the altered timeline, i'm not sure how feasible this is now.
 
I find it funny the strange looks I get from fellow fans when I say just jump ahead another 100 years and have another Enterprise.
It's a simple idea and the most likely to succeed. Niche shows like an all Klingon crew or the story of smugglers or something probably won't last long.
 
Besides, the time-line in Trek changed after the 2009 movie, so the entire 24th century series may not exist, or even if they did wouldn't exist in the same form.

Are we still going on about this? The movie itself says it's an alternate timeline. Abrams, et al, did that specifically to allow the "prime" timeline to still exist and to allow future projects in that timeline. The only thing that's changed is the disappearance of Romulus, Spock and Nero and his gang. Relatively minor on a universal scale.



And I'd say either do the Romulan War (with a different cast than ENT) or jump ahead another 100 years after the TNG era.

And there was also that proposed animated series, there were even sketches going around. I have them saved somewhere.
 
A few years back, someone tried pitching a new animated series to Paramount, but nothing ever came of that.
 
Besides, the time-line in Trek changed after the 2009 movie
No it didn't.

I thought the timeline changed when Nero destroyed Vulcan, and the supernova destroyed Romulus.

The timeline changed when Nero and Spock-prime went back in time after Romulus was destroyed.

Look, do you remember when Doc Brown drew the diagram in Back to the Future 2 to explain the different timeline? Very similar thing here.
 
Trek XI is in a different timeline, but the original timeline still exists. There, that's explained. Moving along...
 
I think it would be interesting to follow a ship maintence port - like the ones you see Kirk's Enterprise in. Just the day to day, running, accidents, near misses and so on would be brilliant.

Or one set at the Star Fleet Academy.

Or one based on one of the alien spieces instead of Star Fleet.

My list is endless, but then again so is my imagination.
 
I think it would be interesting to follow a ship maintence port - like the ones you see Kirk's Enterprise in. Just the day to day, running, accidents, near misses and so on would be brilliant.

Or one set at the Star Fleet Academy.

Or one based on one of the alien spieces instead of Star Fleet.

My list is endless, but then again so is my imagination.

And yet people say the franchise "needed a rest".

Meadow-muffins I say, it merely needed new blood, as the different direction of ENT's season 4 shows (I know it wasn't perfect, but it showed that they could make a massive tonal shift when needed).

And using your setting of the maintenance port would also lend itself to an anthology type setting. When ships come in all beat to hell, you could do flashback style storytelling to tell of the different crews' adventures, thus not having to lock into one ship or main cast.
 
Besides, the time-line in Trek changed after the 2009 movie
No it didn't.


Of course it did. That was the whole point.

Pretending otherwise is just denial.

Wait, what? The point of the way they did it (creating a new, parallel timeline) was to allow "our" prime timeline to remain (mostly) intact. They even say it in the movie.


From Memory Alpha
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Trek_(film)


Orci said:
Even though this film takes place in an alternate timeline, Orci has stated that any canon changes made in this timeline will not affect the former timeline, arguing that the scientific theory of quantum mechanics permits the existence of parallel timelines and universes, invoking the thousands of Enterprises from various universes seen in TNG: "Parallels" to back up this theory. He also believes that this theory allows for the continuance of a timeline even after a change is effected and an alternate timeline is created. In addition, he argues that, although the timeline has changed, the true nature of the characters does not change and that Kirk and company are the same people they are in the original timeline.
 
I think the question of 'who' is just as important as the question of 'where' when contemplating a new Star Trek. TOS, TNG and DS9 are the shows which most people seem to consider the best, including myself. These shows worked so well because the feel of the show and the rest of the crew were all worked around the captain, who provided a kind of centre around which everything else developed.

TOS was about exploration, about going boldly where no man had gone before. Kirk was the ideal captain, he embodied this tone. Kirk was a man who could fly by the seat of his pants and enjoy it, the crew reflected this. Spock was the perfect right hand man for Kirk because he was so unemotional and thought everything out rationally and logically. Bones was a perfect foil for Spock and friend for Kirk because he was very sentimental. Spock served to show Kirk his duty, and how to do most good for the most people. Bones was someone who could speak frankly to his captain, and really remind Kirk of the consequences of his actions. Kirk was a mans man, and the Enterprise was a 'mans ship' without luxury.

TNG was far more about Enterprise being the flagship, it was often involved in first contact situations, or mediating relations between different species. Picard was the perfect captain to centre the show around. He was a born diplomat, a man who would gain victories from diplomacy, legality and morality, and a man who followed orders almost without question. His two right hand men were Data and Riker. Riker was perfect as the 'mans man' to Picards intellectual, he was a born first officer, the perfect mediator between crew and captain, since Picard was quite removed from the crew. Data worked as well as he did because he constantly forced Picard to think about what was human.

DS9 was about being in a situation removed from Starfleet, where TNG needed a man who knew how to use law and reason, DS9 required a man who knew how to use force. Sisko is perfect because he is a damaged man who comes to a damaged station, orbiting a damaged world. DS9 was about making tough choices, that may not be totally moral but that were necessary. Sisko would follow his heart, and thats what this show needed, he was also a man who could get along with just about anyone, important for a space station. The crew, too, were characters who largely had to cope with diffcult new circumstances: O'Brien with his new senoirity, Worf with being in a civilian atmosphere, Dax in a new host, Bashir learning the realities of 'frontier medicine'. Kira was a great right hand 'man' for Sisko because she was basically going through the opposite experiece. She was a freedom fighter, she had to do bad things somethings, but they were always for the greater good. She now has to deal with being part of a large, often beaurocratic organisation.

Even the main villains were centred around the captains, in DS9 and TNG. The Borg are relentless, you cant talk and negotiate with them, the perfect challenge for Picard. The Dominion, though sometimes violent, mainly trys to invade the alpha qaundrant through political manipulation, alliances and treatise, the perfect challenge for such a passionate leader as Sisko.

In VOY, the most glaring problem was Janeway. She didnt have any particular character strengths, and more importantly she didnt have any exposed flaws. She just did what she did and it turned out to be right because the script was written to make it right. She didnt reflect the situation at all, and niether did the ship and crew. They still had the holodeck, for crying out loud! Id like to see a show which is basically Voyager done well.

Both Voyager and Janeway were really built for science. Janeway was an officer who had never really needed to make tough decisions before, the ship was built for scientific research, not action. Most importantly, neither captain or ship were picked for this situation, they were stuck in it. Janeway should have been a somewhat weaker character, someone who was inexperienced, but who was guided through situations by a solid morality, and by the help of those around her. Early Voyager episodes could have concentrated on Janeway making mistakes that cost lives, and actually make her reflect and grow from these experiences. She could even have felt it was a mistake to blow up the array, her guilt could have been a major theme. The character of Chakotay should have been a character who was used to using force and going in all guns blazing, he could have made a good foil for Janeway, and, as she learnt from his approach, he would learn how to curb his aggression. Tuvok would have been good as he was, but with a flawed Janeway he could have been a more integral advisor, especially so far away when they really do need to be rational. The crew of VOY was so dull because they didnt relate to the captain or situation. The journey of Voyager would have been adapting quickly to circumstances that the crew were never supposed to face.

I dont know how this could be done without being an obvious touch up of VOY, but thats what I would like to see. A situation where the captain doesnt have the experience, but needs to learn fast to cope with new realities, and really needs to learn from his mistakes. I know it will be ridiculed, but I imagine someone like Niles Crane, a man or woman who was so NOT made for this task, but has this task thrust upon him, put in a situation where he isnt just at a desk, but where his desicions cost lives, and hes there to see the bloodshed. Where the ship cant support holodecks or replicators, where theres nothing to distract the crew from going stir-crazy. Testing out the starfleet ideals in a place far from starfleet on the edge of total desperation. I think this would really emphasis the humanity that is so present in good Trek.
 
I always thought an anthology would be the way to go. Have several-episode story archs, chich could be told on diffrent ships, different eras, the Academy, Starfleet medical, the Klingon Empire, colonizing a world, etc., etc. I really liked the idea of the maintanance station as a way of "bookending" these stories and tying them together.

Oh, well. Would have been a nice idea, IMHO.
 
I think I would prefer more unity than waht you describe. I'd like it a lot more if there was a central protagonist, like an Admiral or something. He/she wouldnt have to appear in every show, just be a guiding prescence.
 
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