What was up w/ T'Pol and Tucker?
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http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=32629 Strongly recommended reading...Worst idea ever!
T'Tits and the Connor Trineer character were the worst. It was obvious from the beginning that the pretty people were meant for each other and yet, they needed bloody backrubs to force them together somehow. I have never seen so little chemistry.
Aside from the ...rather blunt phrasing, you have a point. The handling of the couple was rather ham-fisted towards the end. I've found more than a handful of fans would concur with that. But I've long since burnt out on discussing this well-debated issue.
ETA: Jinx, I thought that notice was mostly meant to keep shipper discussion out of other topics, not to open new threads meant for the purpose. *is unsure* Personally, I think that thread is unnecessary since no one's blown up over that issue in years, but that's just me.
ETA: Jinx, I thought that notice was mostly meant to keep shipper discussion out of other topics, not to open new threads meant for the purpose. *is unsure* Personally, I think that thread is unnecessary since no one's blown up over that issue in years, but that's just me.
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=32629 Strongly recommended reading...Worst idea ever!
T'Tits and the Connor Trineer character were the worst. It was obvious from the beginning that the pretty people were meant for each other and yet, they needed bloody backrubs to force them together somehow. I have never seen so little chemistry.
How many rules must a place like this have? I just want to talk about a topical issue, not plot some illegality.
I can't be arsed to read that.
Which leads me to wonder, did Enterprise have the prettiest crew of all Treks? 
Sex sells. They were just looking for the widest viewership possible, and they figured that naked "beautiful people" oiling each other up and playing with each other's feet would help the ratings; who cares if they had about as much chemistry as a twenty dollar skin flick. With each decline in Enterprise's numbers, it seemed that T'Pol would show more and more breast; Another season, and I'm sure we would have gotten nipple.
Worst idea ever!
T'Tits and the Connor Trineer character were the worst. It was obvious from the beginning that the pretty people were meant for each other and yet, they needed bloody backrubs to force them together somehow. I have never seen so little chemistry.
They weren't my favorite trek couple, but they did have some chemistry, and I liked them better than Worf/Dax.
whats a shipper?
It did.Which leads me to wonder, did Enterprise have the prettiest crew of all Treks?
Sadly, I think some of TIIC of UPN expected that to do the storytelling instead of, you know, plots and scripts and that sort of thing. Tucker/T'Pol and to a lesser extent Archer/T'Pol was no exception. It's too bad, since all three actors were pretty decent and any combination of the three in a relationship (Yeah, I'm looking at the Archer/Tucker crowd, yo!
) could have been pulled off with their talent. Too bad what we got reminds me far too much of the shitty storylines that "As the World Turns" has right now.
Completely disagree. I usually never notice relationships of this sort in Trek, and when I did my interest had peripheral at best, but these two had enough of whatever it was to catch my attention and hold it.Worst idea ever!
T'Tits and the Connor Trineer character were the worst. It was obvious from the beginning that the pretty people were meant for each other and yet, they needed bloody backrubs to force them together somehow. I have never seen so little chemistry.
Something about opposites I suspect.
I never liked T'Pol. When it boiled down to it, she was Seven of Nine without the personality. Consequently, any relationship she had was bound to leave me feeling indifferent; and that's more or less my reaction to her whole Trip affair. I liked Trip, but still not enough to care. One wishes he'd asked that girl in the red dress to dance with him and got himself a more substantive partner (one of his best scenes and probably the best speech ever delivered on ENT, but I disgress...)
I don't think it was that obvious from the beginning, my memory was a bit fuzzy but I hung around this forum for the first season and part of the second; and back then, if my memory serves, Archer/T'Pol was the dominant pairing. Certainly while that occurred to me at the time I never guessed the union with Trip would occur.
I don't think it was that obvious from the beginning, my memory was a bit fuzzy but I hung around this forum for the first season and part of the second; and back then, if my memory serves, Archer/T'Pol was the dominant pairing. Certainly while that occurred to me at the time I never guessed the union with Trip would occur.
I loved them together and thought they had fantastic chemistry. But then, Trineer seems to have chemistry with anyone that he acts with. But I liked T'pol sans Trip, too. I liked both characters. I was a fan of the new style Vulcans--it was something different. Then we got the season 4 Vulcan arc to round it all off, and what's not to like?
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=32629 Strongly recommended reading...Worst idea ever!
T'Tits and the Connor Trineer character were the worst. It was obvious from the beginning that the pretty people were meant for each other and yet, they needed bloody backrubs to force them together somehow. I have never seen so little chemistry.
How many rules must a place like this have? I just want to talk about a topical issue, not plot some illegality.
You have to admit the tone of your post did come across as trolling. The point underneith may be valid, but ...
Elite, I suggest you read the rules for posting on TrekBBS before starting a fight about the show or about what may or may not be posted. You are close to trolling, and if you keep it up I will warn you. Knock it off, now.
As for this thread, I see that there are a number of people who are responding reasonably to the topic, so I will keep it open for the moment. We'll see how it fares. Maybe we can all discuss this in a civilized fashion these days? I'm willing to give it a try to find out. If it devolves, however, I will shut it down.
As for this thread, I see that there are a number of people who are responding reasonably to the topic, so I will keep it open for the moment. We'll see how it fares. Maybe we can all discuss this in a civilized fashion these days? I'm willing to give it a try to find out. If it devolves, however, I will shut it down.
I think if there was any lack of "chemistry" it was because T'Pol is a Vulcan and she necessarily suppressed emotions. It seemed they had to beef up whatever chemistry there was by using a plot device that had T'Pol become addicted to a substance that ramped up her emotions.
Unfortunately, I think one of the flaws of Enterprise was that it too often resorted to what I feel was adolescent fantasy. I think that was to appeal to mass media and help in lagging viewership. But the Trip/T'Pol relationship did evolve beyond mere lubing up in the decon chamber. Look at the dynamics of the relationship in Terra Prime. To me that represented a mature and interesting relationship. It is so sad that that was where the series ended, with so much promise.
Unfortunately, I think one of the flaws of Enterprise was that it too often resorted to what I feel was adolescent fantasy. I think that was to appeal to mass media and help in lagging viewership. But the Trip/T'Pol relationship did evolve beyond mere lubing up in the decon chamber. Look at the dynamics of the relationship in Terra Prime. To me that represented a mature and interesting relationship. It is so sad that that was where the series ended, with so much promise.
^ I agree. I think, even back in Breaking The Ice, there were signs that Trip understood T'Pol better than most, and she clearly had a reaction to that. I thought they had chemistry, but, as mentioned above, Connor was so good as Trip, I think most of it was him. I though T'Pol was not nearly as interesting as she could have been, but putting her with Trip made her a far more interesting character. It gave her something to react to, something to ground the character, other than just being "that hot Vulcan chick."
I thought the T/T relationship had its flaws, but frankly Trek has always been awful in the relationship department. Troi/Worf was cringeworthy, Kira/Odo was horribly written (did a 7th grader get on the writing staff that year?) 7/C was a joke that only annoyed VOY's few remaining fans. Even Picard/Crusher, which was one of the few that actually had potential for some emotional depth, ended up being nothing more than a long tease that was completely forgotten in the feature films.
In that context, T/T wasn't bad at all.
In that context, T/T wasn't bad at all.
That's pretty sad, on so many levels if T/T is the best of the lot.
I thought season four did quite a bit to strip both characters of who they were to force the romance that many fans thought could stand on it's own. All they did was dance around each other, and in the end, did anyone get to see them actually as a couple? Just like Picard/Crusher, this was little more than a tease as well, and seeing that the show was on thin ice as it was, it was a stupid gamble to pull that. Talk about a wasted investment. I was livid to have my time wasted, and I didn't care for the couple. No wonder people were mad over TATV.
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