What was the 5th TNG movie supposed to be about?

[STR]

I think that Nemesis brought closure to the entire TNG franchise. Riker and Troi have their own ship now, Beverly's at Starfleet Medical, and Data's dead. I'm sure Geordi and Worf have moved on to some other job together in some perverted non-canon slash fanfic. Only Picard remained on the Enterprise.

Yes, but that's a really s####y ending. Worse than "What if they stopped at ST:V?" bad. People aren't bothered by TNG ending with 4 movies, that's a really good run for a Hollywood franchise. Most movies don't make it past the first outing. They just think that the characters, the actors, and the fans deserved a better conclusion. TOS got one, after all.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

I would have liked a 5th TNG movie, just because Nemesis was such a disappointment to so many people (myself included) as the final film (seems to be a trend, these days)

I like the idea of a crossover between the 24th Century Trek shows, working together to combat a threat, it would have given shows that needed a film (VOY)

What could they do with VOY film the show pretty much wrapped up their premise which was getting home in the final episode.

 

[RoJoHen]

I think that Nemesis brought closure to the entire TNG franchise. Riker and Troi have their own ship now, Beverly's at Starfleet Medical, and Data's dead. I'm sure Geordi and Worf have moved on to some other job together in some perverted non-canon slash fanfic. Only Picard remained on the Enterprise.

Yes, but that's a really s####y ending. Worse than "What if they stopped at ST:V?" bad. People aren't bothered by TNG ending with 4 movies, that's a really good run for a Hollywood franchise. Most movies don't make it past the first outing. They just think that the characters, the actors, and the fans deserved a better conclusion. TOS got one, after all.

Exactly. Nemesis may have wrapped up the story, but it was just so crappy!

 

[T'Girl]

It might have been like the Bring Back Kirk Trailer.

Kirk would have been in it? Uber cool.

If TPTB are going to combine the crews, then let's combine ALL the crews. Of course the movie would have to be five hours long, but I'm okay with that too.

The first minute of the movie will be the five Captains standing in a circle around the Captain's chair urinating on it to determine who will command "the mission."

After that the movie will continue on.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Imagine how many characters would be overlooked in this "Justice League" of Trek film. Harry, Geordi, Mayweather, Rom, Hoshi, Uhura, Barclay, Bashir, Reed, Troi, Sulu and Chekov would be lucky to get a line each.

Archer would get the "ZOMFG LEGEND!!" treatment from the other characters, despite them never ever having mentioned him before.

If Picard and Janeway were to get into an argument, their combined self-righteousness may cause the universe to explode.

And who would be baddies be? An impossibly cheesy Romulan/Suliban/Borg/Dominion/Species 8472 alliance? Future Guy?

This whole thing sounds like South Park's "Imaginationland" 3-parter.

 

[Agenda]

I think that Nemesis brought closure to the entire TNG franchise. Riker and Troi have their own ship now, Beverly's at Starfleet Medical, and Data's dead. I'm sure Geordi and Worf have moved on to some other job together in some perverted non-canon slash fanfic. Only Picard remained on the Enterprise.

Yes, but that's a really s####y ending. Worse than "What if they stopped at ST:V?" bad. People aren't bothered by TNG ending with 4 movies, that's a really good run for a Hollywood franchise. Most movies don't make it past the first outing. They just think that the characters, the actors, and the fans deserved a better conclusion. TOS got one, after all.

As far as I'm concerned, the mediocrity of Generations negated the nice sendoff they got in Undiscovered.

 

[RoJoHen]

I think that Nemesis brought closure to the entire TNG franchise. Riker and Troi have their own ship now, Beverly's at Starfleet Medical, and Data's dead. I'm sure Geordi and Worf have moved on to some other job together in some perverted non-canon slash fanfic. Only Picard remained on the Enterprise.

Yes, but that's a really s####y ending. Worse than "What if they stopped at ST:V?" bad. People aren't bothered by TNG ending with 4 movies, that's a really good run for a Hollywood franchise. Most movies don't make it past the first outing. They just think that the characters, the actors, and the fans deserved a better conclusion. TOS got one, after all.

As far as I'm concerned, the mediocrity of Generations negated the nice sendoff they got in Undiscovered.

Meh, I view Generations as more of an epilogue for the TOS characters. I still love their send-off in TUC.

 

[Alrik]

I read an interview with Spiner (no idea where, sorry) where he said the plan was to bring back Data, and then do a "Justice League" of Trek, bringing together all the crews to fight a group of baddies.

Sounds like a 'fanboys' wet dream. Also sounds like it would have gone direct to DVD.

 

[thumbtack]

The plan was to film two hours of the cast and crew apologizing for the previous four films.

 

[Cyke101]

This whole thing sounds like South Park's "Imaginationland" 3-parter.

Huh, I never thought of it that way. Good point.

 

[Saul]

After NEMESIS, would a Romulan war make any sense?

I'd've rather just seen a NEW Star Trek series or film with new adventures and a new cast. I definitely think Paramount should've cleaned house and started fresh, and I'm amazed that with a reboot, but it was nicely done, so I can dig it.

The Romulan War was to introduce a new cast and pretty much have it be a birth of the federation type of movie.

 

[Potemkin_Prod]

Like the last few episodes of ENT?

 

[BillJ]

Like the last few episodes of ENT?

One 'review' of the script...

http://filmjournal.net/oldboy/2009/05/12/star-trek-the-beginning/

 

[Dukhat]

This isn’t exactly how I had envisioned the war. When I listen to Spock’s lines from Balance of Terror I always have the impression that the 22nd Century is a very primitive time, ships that would be very small, almost submarine like having only lasers and nukes to fight a war against an unknown species that would detonate their own ships rather than be caught. Space would still have a very large sense and these two space powers would be going it alone one on one. Technology would be advanced to us but unadvanced as a prequel, for example brick sized communicators used for communicating through space. The joining of the Vulcans, Andorians and Tellarites would be the tide that turned the war.In some ways I would have hoped that a Romulan and Earth War may have looked like this, a very different style and feel to Star Trek if they had taken BOT as a launch pad for the 22nd Century.

This is exactly, EXACTLY how I feel, and why this movie (and ENT in general) did not work for me.

 

[F. King Daniel]

The guy who wrote the script review has clearly never seen Enterprise, which retconned cloaking devices onto Suliban and Romulan ships in the 2150's.

I don't like the sound of the drone ships, and the way the battle over Earth takes place. The AICN review (which made the The Beginning sound quite cool) gave me the impression that it was a proper epic battle with manned ships in Earth orbit, with Romulans bombing cities, and ground troops fighting MACOs.

I like the idea of reducing the Romulan War from the 4-years of the (outdated/invalidated by Enterprise) Star Trek Chronology to a week-long battle in Earth orbit, and I like it being an Earth-Romulan war, as opposed to Coalition-Romulan. I don't like the Romulan reason for the war, a Romulan ethnic cleansing mission against the Vulcans, and Earth refuses to surrender their Vulcan population to the invaders (from AICN).

I'd love the story to be novelized.

 

[Saul]

Seems like he has seen Enterprise http://filmjournal.net/oldboy/2010/07/31/the-romulan-war-beneth-the-raptors-wing/

The guy who wrote the script review has clearly never seen Enterprise, which retconned cloaking devices onto Suliban and Romulan ships in the 2150's.

Or either you haven't seen TOS (of which Enterprise is a prequel) in which cloaks are a new Technology.

 

[HoneyBLilly]

I heard that it was supposed to have all of the TNG-era captain's. So Sisko would have came back, Picard would still be with the Enterprise, and I'm sure Janeway would steal Voyager from where ever it was being kept to join in on the action. Riled would have had the Titan too. And hey, maybe Wesley could have had lines that stayed in the movie since in the deleted scene from Nemesis he says he will be working on the Titan.

Plus, I think Beverly should go back to the Enterprise. All Picard has left is Geordi and Worf. And I guess B4 was going to turn into Data, but still.

 

[Admiral_Young]

I have read "Star Trek: The Beginning" and am thankful that it was never made, would have been the worst Star Trek film made and a big disappointment for fans. I almost didn't finish reading the script because I thought it was so bad and this is someone who enjoyed most parts of "Enterprise", it certainly felt like it took place in the style of the show and felt like a two or three part episode rather than a blockbuster movie.

As for a sequel to "Nemesis" yes I too remember reading that Spiner and Logan wanted to do a "Justice League" type of film featuring the crews of Titan and Enterprise that came together to fight some kind of new enemy. I think "Nemesis" for all of it's flaws did wrap up the TNG era of the franchise pretty well. If anything I would have liked a sequel focusing on the Titan and it's efforts to work with the Romulans and patroling the neutral zone. Perhaps they could have got Leonard Nimoy back to reprise his role as Ambassador Spock (as "Star Trek" ultimately would) and maybe follow up "Unification Part II).

 

[F. King Daniel]

The guy who wrote the script review has clearly never seen Enterprise, which retconned cloaking devices onto Suliban and Romulan ships in the 2150's.

Or either you haven't seen TOS (of which Enterprise is a prequel) in which cloaks are a new Technology.

Hence, "retcon". They changed it. Cloaks are now old hat 100 years before TOS.

 

[Saul]

The guy who wrote the script review has clearly never seen Enterprise, which retconned cloaking devices onto Suliban and Romulan ships in the 2150's.

Or either you haven't seen TOS (of which Enterprise is a prequel) in which cloaks are a new Technology.

Hence, "retcon". They changed it. Cloaks are now old hat 100 years before TOS.

Even the producers of the show couldn't make that one float with the fans.