What TV shows, movies survived into the Trek Timeline?

[Gingerbread Demon]

OK So Star trek isn't "our world" but close enough.

I often wonder in their universe what TV shows they had in their history, what movies and would anything we have have existed in their world.


Did they have Batman, Superman, or Spider Man, Gilligan's Island or Lost In Space, I Love Lucy etc?


I know Moby Dick is referenced several time in the history of Star Trek but what other stuff I wonder. Same for the works of Shakespeare and the like.

 

[CoveTom]

Well, at the present rate, Law and Order and Law and Order: Special Victims Unit will still be running in Trek's time.

I realize Data says TV died out, but in retrospect, he could simply be referring to the rise of the Internet and streaming that led to the decline of traditional TV. We know from Tom Paris' holodeck program that movie theaters are still a thing people know about and at least some people still appreciate.

Today, even though we have movies and TV, people still go to see plays. People still listen to music that was composed hundreds of years ago. People still read classic novels. So I can't imagine that because a holodeck is invented, all filmed entertainment will stop. And I would have to think many of the things we think of as classics today would survive into the 23rd century and beyond.

 

[Greg Cox]

Didn't Enterprise show the crew having movie nights where they watched vintage movies like The Creature from the Black Lagoon and whatever?

And certainly the holodecks of the 24th century seemed to draw heavily from the popular fiction of previous eras: westerns, hardboiled detective novels, spy thrillers, Gothic romances, etc.

 

[Tosk]

Did they have Batman, Superman, or Spider Man, Gilligan's Island or Lost In Space, I Love Lucy etc?

I Love Lucy was explicitly mentioned in Enterprise.

We've also had refs to stuff like The Twilight Zone, Mission: Impossible, and Rick and Morty.

I think it's generally safe to assume that they had almost all the same TV we've had, except for Star Trek itself and perhaps a few other key exceptions where needed.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Didn't Enterprise show the crew having movie nights where they watched vintage movies like The Creature from the Black Lagoon and whatever?

Yes they showed that several times during the series. It was neat that they did that. Movies seldom were mentioned in Trek after that or even shown much.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Holodecks.

I could see Jean Luc Picard doing the Indiana Jones movies on there

But how flexible was the holodeck if you ran that movie there could you interact with characters / change the story or does it have to play out as written?

 

[Nerys Myk]

OK So Star trek isn't "our world" but close enough.

I often wonder in their universe what TV shows they had in their history, what movies and would anything we have have existed in their world.


Did they have Batman, Superman, or Spider Man, Gilligan's Island or Lost In Space, I Love Lucy etc?


I know Moby Dick is referenced several time in the history of Star Trek but what other stuff I wonder. Same for the works of Shakespeare and the like.

Every show that isn't Star Trek is my guess.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Every show that isn't Star Trek is my guess.

Well hey imagine any ship crew in Star Trek Watching TOS haha.... mind frack

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

The Orville is a huge franchise with 13 movies, but Galaxy Quest never existed. Neither did those two episodes of Black Mirror. The ship in Stargate SG-1 was allowed to be called the Enterprise. Ron Moore never got his big break so Battlestar Galactica 2003 is a radically different series.

Rick and Morty's existence implies the existence of Back to the Future. Doctor Who as well, but all the Star Trek references in it were replaced by Star Wars references.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

The Orville is a huge franchise with 13 movies, but Galaxy Quest never existed. Neither did those two episodes of Black Mirror. The ship in Stargate SG-1 was allowed to be called the Enterprise. Ron Moore never got his big break so Battlestar Galactica 2003 is a radically different series.

Rick and Morty's existence implies the existence of Back to the Future. Doctor Who as well, but all the Star Trek references in it were replaced by Star Wars references.

Could you imagine Tom Paris watching Black Mirror

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

You haven't seen The Brady Bunch till you have seen it in the original Klingon

 

[Nerys Myk]

Could you imagine Tom Paris watching Black Mirror

Doesn’t seem to be his cup of tea.

 

[Alexander Corrino]

Imagine the confusion when someone digs out the first few X Men movies during TNG's movie night. (I know, TNG/XMen novel and comic crossover stuff exists.)

 

[F. King Daniel]

The Orville is a huge franchise with 13 movies, but Galaxy Quest never existed. Neither did those two episodes of Black Mirror. The ship in Stargate SG-1 was allowed to be called the Enterprise. Ron Moore never got his big break so Battlestar Galactica 2003 is a radically different series.

Rick and Morty's existence implies the existence of Back to the Future. Doctor Who as well, but all the Star Trek references in it were replaced by Star Wars references.

Honestly, sci-fi can't exist in the Star Trek universe the way it does in ours. It's like The Walking Dead, where zombies aren't a thing, the word is never used and the concept never imagined until it came true.

Otherwise, we're halfway though an episode of Enterprise or whatever and someone realises it's identical to what happened in an episode of Stargate SG-1 or The Orville or Babylon 5 or whatever, and they just watch that in order to know what to do.

Admittedly they pretty much did that in "The Naked Now", googling the TOS episode.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Admittedly they pretty much did that in "The Naked Now", googling the TOS episode.

Yeah, even if science fiction never existed at all in Star Trek's universe, Star Trek as a historical record exists in-universe due to the log entries of previous crews. Riker plays in an Enterprise holoprogram, Mariner's quoting stories by their title, at least some of the characters have seen enough Trek adventures to be genre savvy by now.

If Seven had watched more TV with Paris, she would've known that her ordeal in One was weirdly similar to events experienced by Dr Phlox.