He most certainly would have. And probably replace her with Chief O'Brien.
What the frell happened?
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The actress herself seemed very happy with her role in season 3.
That was reserved for Shaw and Jack Crusher.
Also that subplot of the Borg now having organic technology, that just came out of nowhere. Since when did they do that, that would mean they could get 8472 if they had this capability
Organic assimilation, right? And Picard had some receiver or transmitter embedded in his DNA or some such during BOBW.
I dunno. Doesn't make any more sense than Founders having a hierarchy with half of them wearing bird masks and getting killed for questioning the Chief Founder's orders. The show was designed to make you feel things in the moment; holding up to scrutiny after the fact was never part of the plan.
The whole mentality towards season 3 was "people are tuning in for the TNG reunion, no one will care about the plot."
Obviously it was developed sometime between Endgame and Season 3.
It requires hijacking transporter systems to do it.
Beverly in BOBW said the Borg modified his DNA.
And remember in First Contact he could hear the Borg.
Not necessarily so since 8472 was highly resistant to everything nonfluidic space.
Yeah, this. Stashwick did a great job, but I don't miss his character. He never changed who he was until like the last femtosecond of being alive. Meh.
Salvaged from what?
The plan was actually an expansion from the Queen’s plan in Dark Frontier from Voyager season 5.
She planned to do something similar, but instead of transporters it would be assimilation through a virus. So it’s not a new concept, what changed was with the Changelings working for them, that meant they can work directly in Starfleet and sabotage the transporters.
It falls in line with the Borg Queens, “assimilated all along” plan.
I… suppose none in this thread has watched other Terry Matalas’s other work— 12 Monkeys, again why I trust him. Stashwick played a similar role except that he started out as a flat out villain that through the course of 4 seasons became a heroic figure. By the end everyone in fandom loved Stashwick’s character.
I get what Matala was doing for season 3– he wanted to end it as a love letter to TNG and a final goodbye to the TNG characters. It might not have worked for everyone but I really love season 3.
Matalas has spoken about it before that thé unfortunate reality was that he couldn’t hire everyone back and he had to pick and choose— going in he had a plan to bring in TNG cast because of how he wants to frame the third season as the final movie the TNG crew never got.
I am hoping that if his show with Seven does happen, we do get
And that has bearing on this work...how?
Either the work stands on its own or it doesn't.
More of a reference to how a writer does his work. It’s something I noticed with showrunners, if you’ve observed their work long enough, you can get a sense of how they tell a story. What themes they find interesting and whether you vibe or like their style.
It’s like how I go into a store to look for a John Grisham novel. And since he’s been prolific, people who have read his boos know more or less what types of stories he writes.
I get if Matalas isn’t your style, mileage varies.
It’s like how I go into a store to look for a John Grisham novel. And since he’s been prolific, people who have read his boos know more or less what types of stories he writes.
I get if Matalas isn’t your style, mileage varies.
I don't have enough experience to say Iike his style or not. I found Season 3 a middle of the road entertaining experience.
I generally don't go looking for authors or producers and they don't get the benefit of the doubt from me.
If I have to watch a bunch of unrelated shows in a filmmaker's oeuvre in order for one of them to make total sense, then it's not a good story. It should be able to stand up on its own without having to depend on what I may or may not know about Twelve Monkeys.
You suppose wrong.
i mean… you don’t need to, that’s just what I do. You do you. It just helps me to contextualize things, and I honestly didn’t need to know 12 Monkeys to enjoy Sesaon 3 — its just my kind of Trek show. I just liked the ship and crew story to it all, and I enjoyed the pace It went a little wonky trying to artificially extend why Jack was a MacGuffin everyone was after. But I enjoyed how the relationships played out this season it didn’t feel (to me) ham fisted or dropped in suddenly. It’s also not a perfect season, they could still improve things, if they do get a chance to do an Ent-G show.
Like, right now I’m doing a first watch/rewatch of TNG - the last time I watched it, I was still a kid and my first Trek were DS9 and Voyager. I have perspective of what Berman and Braga did to Voyager, and the other writers on DS9, and it was fascinating to go back to TNG and see where they started from, what stories they were interested in writing, what themes they hit or didn’t.
It’s understandable if you don’t like my approach. I was just explaining from my perspective and how I got there.
It's one thing to watch a show within a series, but another one to watch a completely different show.
Unless I'm missing something that 12 Monkeys is secretly a Star Trek show and no one told anyone?
Unless I'm missing something that 12 Monkeys is secretly a Star Trek show and no one told anyone?
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