What stories would you have liked to have seen on Voyager?

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I wouldn't necessarily want to see it, but I would like to read the story of Lorien and the E2 crew from the point the time line diverged. I would like James Swallow to write it (author of the first Terok Nor book whose brilliant exegesis of Dukat and the beginning of the occupation I consider the best of Treklit).

 

[RobertScorpio]

I would like to have seen more episodes that showed us what they were like before they were stranded. Especially early on, so as to connect with them more. Most of their pasts seemed to be explained with 'words' in throw away lines. An episode told in flashback would have been cool to see more often.

Rob

 

[JanewayRulz!]

Lorien and the E2 crew from the point the time line diverged.

I know I'm an old codger, but who's Lorien and what is E2?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Lorien and the E2 crew from the point the time line diverged.

I know I'm an old codger, but who's Lorien and what is E2?

I AM SORRY.

Too much forum surfing. I thought I was posting in General. I'M AN IDIOT!

Bloody hell.

Okay to answer the question.. what story I would like to see. How about the actual relationship between Seska and Chakotay. Let's see Seska as the strong woman that Chakotay was in love with, see the relationship as real, see Seska (perhaps, lets keep it grey) struggle with her choices. This would make the betrayal actually count rather than being as weak as it was.

 

[Anwar]

The thing about not having kids...well, they crew nor the writers ever believed that they were going to be trapped in the DQ and figured they'd find some shortcut home. This isn't NuBSG where they are all that remains of their civilization, having kids isn't really a high priority.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Although, as Chakotay mentioned, they'd need replacement crew at some point and the smarter crewmen would figure out that the oldest children would most likely be the first to be in charge, rather than that the most senior officers children would pick up were their parents took off since supposedly it's a meritocracy and not an Autocracy, and considering that there are 130ish crewmen/lowerdecks rabble than there are the cast we know and love who actually have to to create relationships and have sex and children...

With the fear of some sort of generational struggle warring for territory and authority, maybe the Doctor had to control the birthrate to stop the complete collapse of civilization like how federation colonies did have a habit of doing as Tasha Yar hiding from the Rape gangs can testify?

 

[Anwar]

Again, the writers themselves never believed that the crew wouldn't make it home on their own and not before their 7 years were up so it just never occurred to them for the crew to have kids.

This isn't like NuBSG where making more people was a priority. It'd be like the crew of Moya trying to have lots of kids simply for the sake of enlarging the crew. It wouldn't make sense.

 

[Linnis Paris]

NuBSG

What does that stand for?

I wasn't thinking having children to complete the journey home. I was thinking more along the lines of couples choosing to have a child. That being far from Federation Space doesn't mean putting all their plans on hold.

 

[RobertScorpio]

If this would have meant more episodes with 'sexual' subtext? I would have been all for it because, IMO, the alien races they were coming across were, at times, boring. An episode, just one or two a year, that focused on adult themes where it involves sex would have been great to see now and then..

Rob

 

[JanewayRulz!]

NuBSG

What does that stand for?

I believe it means the "New" Battlestar Galactica, (the re-imagined BSG) so as not to confuse it with the 1970's version with Lorne Green.

 

[Anwar]

NuBSG

What does that stand for?

I wasn't thinking having children to complete the journey home. I was thinking more along the lines of couples choosing to have a child. That being far from Federation Space doesn't mean putting all their plans on hold.

But being in a hostile unknown area with aliens who actually steal fresh organs like the Vidiians probably would've made them think twice.

 

[Guy Gardener]

But! Being a hostile territory with an alien race who will accept babies as currency might.

 

[RobertScorpio]

I would have liked to have seen some four-part arc stories. Nothing like DS9, mind you, and not a 4 hour episode. Just four episodes that slowed down the temp and didn't have one of those five minute fixes that plagued TNG/VOY much too often.

Rob

 

[Anwar]

If they had done what Berman wanted to do and just waited until DS9 was finished, it would've been cheaper to change the ship models since CGI would've been cheaper 2000+ and there would've been other shows like LEXX and Farscape on to make Paramount think "Huh, these shows are getting critical acclaim so we better make one of our own like this" and thus allow them to do the Maquis thing the way they wanted.

Pretty much what you wanted.

 

[Guy Gardener]

But LEXX had tits, and Farscape had Muppets.

Voyager had neither.

 

[froot]

But LEXX had tits, and Farscape had Muppets.

Voyager had neither.

If you're looking for Muppets, I would like to direct your attention to "Parturition."

And of course Voyager didn't imitate those shows; they didn't exist yet.

 

[Anwar]

That's what I mean, if they had waited to do VOY after DS9 like Berman wanted then those shows WOULD'VE existed already and made Paramount think "We need a show of our own like these" and thus let the writers do VOY the way they wanted.

 

[froot]

That's what I mean, if they had waited to do VOY after DS9 like Berman wanted then those shows WOULD'VE existed already and made Paramount think "We need a show of our own like these" and thus let the writers do VOY the way they wanted.

Yeah.

I think whether you love or hate the show, most folks seem to agree that VOY was holding back too much most of the time. I think we all wonder what would have happened if the writers were allowed to do whatever the heck they wanted (although "Threshold" happened that way, I think, lol.)

 

[Zman1]

I know that some one wrote a couple books based on after Endgame i think it was Christie Golden or something like that. To me the books are just published fanfic.

i liked those books but honestly all the current writers are fans making it all fanfic

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I think It should have been more realistic. The ship couldn't fix itself... we should have seen more repair work and effects of items needing repair. The shuttle issue, if the writers were going to destroy so many then we should have seen some built. what about kids there should have been more births.

i also think that janeway should have ordered engineering to replicate and install a cloaking device.

 

[Guy Gardener]

That's what I mean, if they had waited to do VOY after DS9 like Berman wanted then those shows WOULD'VE existed already and made Paramount think "We need a show of our own like these" and thus let the writers do VOY the way they wanted.

And Enterprise wasn't how they wanted to do Voyager?

In the first year the only real sense of continuity was when some one would chirp up about how proud they were that they were how many or so many dozens of light years from earth and it was always a slightly larger number... But then half way though, when they are supposed to have been trekking where no man has been before... They bump into elements of the Boomer fleet which can only chug along at warp 1.2. Then of course there the highly impressive arc they plotted where T'Pol says that crew is stressed and that she had read that if the crew got laid they would be more efficient (I shit you not) afterwards if only briefly, and then they spend four episodes after that on their way to, or being diverted from making landfall on planet whore, I mean Risa.

The writers, and even the producers claiming that they were just obeying orders can only take you so far in the blame game.