What Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode should be stricken from canon?
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YES. Meridian is the single worst Star Trek episode EVER.
But why is everyone hating on the Mirror Universe? Those episodes were fun, it was a cool plot, and I like how it interacted more and more with the regular universe's continuity. Plus, the Mirror Universe figures into the relaunch in a big way...a good way.
Q-Less was cool because it put the series into perspective in the Trek universe. These people weren't the cream of the crop drama-free officers of the Enterprise command crew. These were, as Q put it, "the Little People". But they got a whole lot bigger!
YES. Meridian is the single worst Star Trek episode EVER.
But why is everyone hating on the Mirror Universe? Those episodes were fun, it was a cool plot, and I like how it interacted more and more with the regular universe's continuity. Plus, the Mirror Universe figures into the relaunch in a big way...a good way.
Q-Less was cool because it put the series into perspective in the Trek universe. These people weren't the cream of the crop drama-free officers of the Enterprise command crew. These were, as Q put it, "the Little People". But they got a whole lot bigger!
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I don't know...I thought it was odd that those writers were so creative in the regular episodes, but this one world where they could do anything they wanted was kinda unimaginative- and it all felt so "small" as the whole Rebellion remained so conveniently centered on DS9. And then they built a Defiant too...
Q-Less was great in my opinion. Not every episode must have a big story. It was fun, and the aliens at Quarks were cool.
I don't know...I thought it was odd that those writers were so creative in the regular episodes, but this one world where they could do anything they wanted was kinda unimaginative- and it all felt so "small" as the whole Rebellion remained so conveniently centered on DS9. And then they built a Defiant too...
Q-Less was great in my opinion. Not every episode must have a big story. It was fun, and the aliens at Quarks were cool.
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If I got rid of "Waltz," would it get rid of the pagh wraiths storyline?
I might go fully contrarian and choose "Children of Time." I hated that episode. The only decent part was Old Odo's revelation. The rest of it was a moral dilemma that turned on an extremely suspect, very illogical conception of time travel, and the survivors' descendants were a bunch of dorks anyway.
Well, he is a man-child who doesn't know how to act around women. You can't genetically engineer that (can you?
).If I got rid of "Waltz," would it get rid of the pagh wraiths storyline?
I might go fully contrarian and choose "Children of Time." I hated that episode. The only decent part was Old Odo's revelation. The rest of it was a moral dilemma that turned on an extremely suspect, very illogical conception of time travel, and the survivors' descendants were a bunch of dorks anyway.
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Yep I hate the whole Satan=Dukat stuff. I could buy Dukat as a madman, from losing his child, but the bogeyman-nope
Still, I would have added Sisko visiting Jake before going to the Prophets instead of Kass.
Basically DS9 needed another season to really wrap up things. Like to see a big victory (real, not contrieved) and Voyager returning in the spring of 2000 and perhaps 31 sneaking a view of those future weapons to Sisko and ending the war just like that.
Well, he is a man-child who doesn't know how to act around women. You can't genetically engineer that (can you?
If I got rid of "Waltz," would it get rid of the pagh wraiths storyline?
I might go fully contrarian and choose "Children of Time." I hated that episode. The only decent part was Old Odo's revelation. The rest of it was a moral dilemma that turned on an extremely suspect, very illogical conception of time travel, and the survivors' descendants were a bunch of dorks anyway.
Yep I hate the whole Satan=Dukat stuff. I could buy Dukat as a madman, from losing his child, but the bogeyman-nope
Still, I would have added Sisko visiting Jake before going to the Prophets instead of Kass.
Basically DS9 needed another season to really wrap up things. Like to see a big victory (real, not contrieved) and Voyager returning in the spring of 2000 and perhaps 31 sneaking a view of those future weapons to Sisko and ending the war just like that.
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My God, is was just the second episode. And then there never was any Q episode in DS9 again.
What's the problem with "Meridian"? Wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible either.
My God, is was just the second episode. And then there never was any Q episode in DS9 again.
What's the problem with "Meridian"? Wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible either.
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It's a terrible episode for Dax. I mean, christ, if she was really this easy, then Julian would've hooked up with her before S3 started.
It's a terrible episode for Dax. I mean, christ, if she was really this easy, then Julian would've hooked up with her before S3 started.
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Agreed. And a damn fine episode to boot.
Agreed. And a damn fine episode to boot.
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Most Ferengi episodes.
Some were alright in and of themselves, but how many were we subjected to over seven seasons?
I was never interested in the Ferengi anyways...TNG had tossed them on the "crap" pile before the 80's ended.
Why the writers felt we needed so much Ferengi when there was so much else in the tapestry of the show to be explored and expanded upon, I'll never understand.
You can do "fluff" episodes without an annoyingly cliched race being dropped into predictable situations.
Most Ferengi episodes.
Some were alright in and of themselves, but how many were we subjected to over seven seasons?
I was never interested in the Ferengi anyways...TNG had tossed them on the "crap" pile before the 80's ended.
Why the writers felt we needed so much Ferengi when there was so much else in the tapestry of the show to be explored and expanded upon, I'll never understand.
You can do "fluff" episodes without an annoyingly cliched race being dropped into predictable situations.
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Really? That's bizarre.
Really? That's bizarre.
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I'm not sure it's a matter of "easy", it's just that it didn't make sense for Jadzia to behave like that. The romance was too quick and insufficiently plausible for us to believe that someone with all her life experience was going to abandon everything in her life for this guy. And Sisko's big goodbye scene was wasted since we knew full well she wasn't going to leave in such a silly way.
I'm not sure it's a matter of "easy", it's just that it didn't make sense for Jadzia to behave like that. The romance was too quick and insufficiently plausible for us to believe that someone with all her life experience was going to abandon everything in her life for this guy. And Sisko's big goodbye scene was wasted since we knew full well she wasn't going to leave in such a silly way.
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It's only a papermoon? I love that episode.
It's only a papermoon? I love that episode.
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Move along Home
Move along Home
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What? That episode is all about the returning soldier, their problems with post-traumatic stress, the damaged state that any soldier wounded in war has gone through, all through the lens of someone who had been such a gung ho, 'our side will win because we're in the right' brave little soldier, facing the realities of war. It's one of DS9's gems.
Oh, and, on topic, given that I've already banished Meridian from my memory, I'd probably say 'Emperor's New Cloak.' It just... it was an outright comedy while all the other mirror universe episodes were at least dark comedy. I get the idea of trying to make things turn out for the better for the humans of the MU, but it really doesn't mesh well with the tone of the other MU episodes and seems far too easily wrapped up (Regent Worf done in by a few bumbling Ferengi? Seriously?)
What? That episode is all about the returning soldier, their problems with post-traumatic stress, the damaged state that any soldier wounded in war has gone through, all through the lens of someone who had been such a gung ho, 'our side will win because we're in the right' brave little soldier, facing the realities of war. It's one of DS9's gems.
Oh, and, on topic, given that I've already banished Meridian from my memory, I'd probably say 'Emperor's New Cloak.' It just... it was an outright comedy while all the other mirror universe episodes were at least dark comedy. I get the idea of trying to make things turn out for the better for the humans of the MU, but it really doesn't mesh well with the tone of the other MU episodes and seems far too easily wrapped up (Regent Worf done in by a few bumbling Ferengi? Seriously?)
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An another episode that I love. My favourite part is when the trapped crew have to sing. Avery managed to step up and sing it properly while Nana made my ears ache,
An another episode that I love. My favourite part is when the trapped crew have to sing. Avery managed to step up and sing it properly while Nana made my ears ache,
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Fascinaton -what were the writers smoking that week?
"everyone falls madly out of character, er, I mean in love, with all the wrong people. hilarity ensues!!
yeah, no, wrong. please make me forget that one!
Fascinaton -what were the writers smoking that week?
"everyone falls madly out of character, er, I mean in love, with all the wrong people. hilarity ensues!!
yeah, no, wrong. please make me forget that one!
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/\ Couldn't disagree with you more, Fascination rocks! While I thought it was reasonably enjoyable, Little Green Men could be due for a nomination based on Rom discovering the secret of time travel. Surely this would change the galaxy and make Rom a trillionaire overnight?
/\ Couldn't disagree with you more, Fascination rocks! While I thought it was reasonably enjoyable, Little Green Men could be due for a nomination based on Rom discovering the secret of time travel. Surely this would change the galaxy and make Rom a trillionaire overnight?
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