What moral issues should be addressed socially and politically in the film that reflects todays times? Abrams, Orci and Kurtzman said they want to make the film appeal to a universal audience instead of a targeted fan audience that all can enjoy. In order to do that you have to come up with something that is relevent today for them to be familiar with. Should Abrams bring up the issues of today and if so what do you think it should be?
WHat social and political issues should Trek XI address?
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Guys...I'll say it right now in hopes of avoiding going down this road. If this thread degenerates into an argument solely about gay characters in Star Trek, I'm shutting it down.
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Guys...I'll say it right now in hopes of avoiding going down this road. If this thread degenerates into an argument solely about gay characters in Star Trek, I'm shutting it down.
Been there, done that, got the tee-shirt last month.
Thanks.
The one with Jamie Bamber in a towel on it?
And gay characters aren't?
No, seriously, PKTrekGirl is right, I think this was discussed sufficiently some time ago. IIRC, the general consensus was that political and/or social issues shouldn't be a priority for the new movie now. It's only purpose is to entertain.
Short answer (minus pesky Color tags):
Social and political issues addressed by the film should be limited to those subjects which may be plausibly touched upon in the course of telling the story. Any such raising of issues should be done without detracting from the story itself, without getting preachy on a singular viewpoint and (fanfare, please!) without Bringing out The Great Big
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Short answer (minus pesky Color tags):
Social and political issues addressed by the film should be limited to those subjects which may be plausibly touched upon in the course of telling the story. Any such raising of issues should be done without detracting from the story itself, without getting preachy on a singular viewpoint and (fanfare, please!) without Bringing out The Great Big
Oops.
TOS was famous for addressing social, political and religious issues. However, when I go to the movies I don't like to be preached to. Hard core issues should be left to movies telling true stories or documentaries. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with real life settings, universal issues, etc., but don't take a captive movie theater audience watching a film under the assumption that it's going to be a grand space adventure and then ram some pet peeve issue down their throats.
Agreed. When you're doing a weekly television show, you have the luxury of telling all kinds of stories over the life of the series, including covering all kinds of social and political issues. You can take more chances. When it comes to big budget movie, the studios probably view the stakes as being to high to risk alienating some portion of the potential audience with any divisive issues. It's simply a different forum, with different priorities.
The usual. Individualism and free will and the need for himankind to exist outside of a paradise; also discrimination is bad. Standard Star Trek stuff. Do it well and I'll be happy. It should try to aim for universal moral messages that are applicable to contemporary problems than thinly veiled versions of contemporary problems.
Yes. I agree 100%
We don't need any social issues really. Let's get a good popcorn flick that enthralls the general movie going public, and the Trekkies, with it's awesomeness. The next movie can deal with the "issues."
None.
Trek has tried, repeatedly, to be "overtly relevant" over the years... but the best Trek stories have never been the "preachy" ones, have they?
The best Trek stories were about PEOPLE, not politics. The worst ones were the ones that beat us over the head with slanted political diatribes.
IMHO, of course!
Tell us a timeless story about HUMAN BEINGS... a story that would have been equally relevant 40 years ago and will still be relevant 40 years into the future.
(Fortunately, the story we're getting is just such a story)
So, does this mean that you'd be peeved if the President of the Federation is Hillary ObaMcCain?
Famous for it? Eh. I think that has become a bigger part of the myth rather than the truth of TOS. It was commercial TV, after all. Just my opinion.
That said, TOS was very good at telling stories that created a moral quandary. Issues of conscience. The Kirk, Spock, McCoy relationship was suited to this. Kirk facing the burden of command was suited to it. As was Spock dealing with his human side. The best stories were the ones that played off of a selection of those elements. That's what I'd hope to see in this movie.
In the future, they take the top 3 runners and fuse them into one person, a la Tuvix. The result is almost always harmless, but sometimes they develop the will to live past their term.
Oh, nothing except the usual "individual overcoming their personal limitations" thing. No preaching, please.
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