What scifi captain/colonel/flag officer for president.
- Thread starter TEH BABA
- Start date
Kira Nerys. Anybody else want to contribute female candidates?? (Besides Temis)
How about Sam Carter, Kathryn Janeway, Susan Ivanova and Erika Hernandez?
Weir wouldn't fit into the categories listed under the title, but we could add her to the list
Riiiiiight. Of course, he's the only one mentioned so far who actually has any experience at this job.
since when does experience count for anything?
Gaius Baltar
Free threesomes for all upon election
Free threesomes for all upon election
Gaius Baltar
Free threesomes for all upon election
His campaign slogan: "With Six You Get Cylons".
doubleohfive
Fleet Admiral
Riiiiiight. Of course, he's the only one mentioned so far who actually has any experience at this job.
So?
The OP isn't asking who has the most experience, who served in office previously, or who would be most qualified for the job. He's asking which CO/flag officer would we pick for president?
All that aside, Laura Roslin has been President of the Colonies for a while, as were Gaius Baltar, Tom Zarek, and Lee Adama for intermediate time periods throughout the show. Does their experience not qualify? Or is John Sheridan the only "right" answer?
Finally, experience or not, it doesn't change the fact that yes, Sheridan was an egocentric blowhard.
Last edited:
Gaius Baltar
Free threesomes for all upon election
See, this is another reason, in-universe, to vote for the man.
Adama from the new Galactica show. If "the look" doesn't shut up his opposition, a flashlight will.
Amen to that!
And Sheridan has done both, which is why I'd go with him. He satisfies your criteria as well as mine.
The only answer? No, just the best answer.
Although both were protecting civilizations on the brink of destruction, Roslin presided over a much smaller group of people, all from one race and society, and for a shorter time. Sheridan governed a much larger group made of multiple civilizations. Prior to that he was a flag officer of fleets that fought two great wars against vastly different forces, winning both.
I'll see your alleged egocentric blowhard, and raise you one messianic complex and one limited facial expression.Finally, experience or not, it doesn't change the fact that yes, Sheridan was an egocentric blowhard.
President Sheridan, as depicted in Season Five of B5 and in the later TV movies, wouldn't have got re-elected once in any functioning democracy - and would have been lucky not to get impeached within his first term.
Just to run through his high crimes and misdemeanors, or silly arrogances that the media would pursue him over, there's...
Appointing his ex-wife to a key command (Babylon 5) without publically admitting his connection to her (or even to his friends and colleagues for several episodes).
Appointing an alcoholic who's recently been erratic due to severe mental trauma (and who later messes up badly while drunk) as head of Alliance Intelligence.
And, from the point of view of getting on the bad side of the media... refusing to do interviews, except when there's an opportunity to humiliate them (Teryl Rothery's character in Voices in the Dark).
There's more, I'm sure, but any of those are enough to turn him into a lame duck without the support from other politicians he needs to actually do anything as the fuss/hostility goes on.
Just to run through his high crimes and misdemeanors, or silly arrogances that the media would pursue him over, there's...
Appointing his ex-wife to a key command (Babylon 5) without publically admitting his connection to her (or even to his friends and colleagues for several episodes).
Appointing an alcoholic who's recently been erratic due to severe mental trauma (and who later messes up badly while drunk) as head of Alliance Intelligence.
And, from the point of view of getting on the bad side of the media... refusing to do interviews, except when there's an opportunity to humiliate them (Teryl Rothery's character in Voices in the Dark).
There's more, I'm sure, but any of those are enough to turn him into a lame duck without the support from other politicians he needs to actually do anything as the fuss/hostility goes on.
doubleohfive
Fleet Admiral
Roslin over Sheridan?!?And Sheridan has done both, which is why I'd go with him. He satisfies your criteria as well as mine.
The only answer? No, just the best answer.
Although both were protecting civilizations on the brink of destruction, Roslin presided over a much smaller group of people, all from one race and society, and for a shorter time. Sheridan governed a much larger group made of multiple civilizations. Prior to that he was a flag officer of fleets that fought two great wars against vastly different forces, winning both.
I'll see your alleged egocentric blowhard, and raise you one messianic complex and one limited facial expression.Finally, experience or not, it doesn't change the fact that yes, Sheridan was an egocentric blowhard.
At least Sheridan *tried* to stick to his principles, unlike Madam President who wouldn't let anything stand in her way including election fraud. Sheridan's got an advisory board with people on it who've disagreed with him before where Roslin doesn't consult with anybody but Adama who's every bit as ruthless as she is. I'd say the egocentric goes the other way here.
Jan
Because we can't repel a candidate of that magnitude.
doubleohfive
Fleet Admiral
Roslin over Sheridan?!?And Sheridan has done both, which is why I'd go with him. He satisfies your criteria as well as mine.
The only answer? No, just the best answer.
Although both were protecting civilizations on the brink of destruction, Roslin presided over a much smaller group of people, all from one race and society, and for a shorter time. Sheridan governed a much larger group made of multiple civilizations. Prior to that he was a flag officer of fleets that fought two great wars against vastly different forces, winning both.
I'll see your alleged egocentric blowhard, and raise you one messianic complex and one limited facial expression.Finally, experience or not, it doesn't change the fact that yes, Sheridan was an egocentric blowhard.
And look what it got them. President Gaius Baltar. Who, though legally elected, led the Colonials to what could have wound up being their ultimate demise, all on a scare tactic to win an election.
The president of the Colonies also has an advisory board -- its called the Quorum of Twelve, and it has disagreed with each President since the beginning of the series.
Call it what you want ("ruthless") but Adama has kept his people alive. As I said earlier, he's able to step aside from a situation and do the right thing even if he disagrees with it (Making Roslin admit to stealing the election, voting 'not guilty' in Baltar's trial).
Please note: My vote is still for Bill and Lee Adama, as I indicated in my original post.
I only mentioned Roslin because Neroon seems to think that the only qualifying factor here should be "previous experience on the job," and as Roslin has just that, I referenced her.
Easy pick here ... Susan Ivanova. She's strong-willed, does not back down from a fight, and has a conscience, something she lets guide her choices. She will listen to the opinions of those around her, but doesn't let others make choices for her. She's basically Picard with boobies and fighting skills.
She was appointed for a couple of reason, both of which outweigh the secret. He knew Lochley to be trustworthy enough and principled enough to stand against him if she felt it necessary. On top of that, it was important that the person be someone from "the other side" in the conflict with Earth. She fits the bill and without the danger of being someone who'd bring some type of vendetta against the station and the ISA. As to her being his ex-wife... eh, I never liked that plot device as it seemed sloppily dropped in and unnecessary, anyhow.
At the time Garibaldi was appointed, he had not resumed his drinking and had't exhibited any erratic behavior. He was clean sober, and Bester's programming had been removed. Once Sheridan realized Garibaldi had slipped off the transport so to speak, he removed Garibaldi from the post.
Last edited:
Similar threads
