And? Just because someone else did it doesn't mean it's okay.
What saved every universe?
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There's a BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE between "going to" war, and the war coming to your OWN home.
The Cardassian war always was the former. A border skirmish.
Klingons being inside the fucking Solar system is a BIG fucking deal. Like, French soldiers have gone to quite a few wars in the last 70 years, including Iraq, Mali, etc. just recently. But the last time the war came to France was a BIG fucking deal - and still is - for every Frenchman and -woman!
So much so that even you know about it - despite you most likely not being able to name every war French soldiers went into since then either.
The single largest terrorist attack in French history was in November 2015. The Klingons attacking on Sol System territory is comparable, in my opinion, to this kind of attack. Especially since the Klingons are similarly disorganized and not acting like a sovereign state (although RL 137 deaths pales in comparison to the fictional 800,000 deaths).
You HAVE to make a distinction between an attack by terrorists and a fucking WAR.
That wasn't a sleeper cell of klingons raging through the streets, evading authorities and gunning down civilians. This was a clearly structured army, engaging in direct combat with the military, winning, no less - AND on a crusade of total destruction.
The two are not comparable. Not even in the slightest.
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I think it might be somewhere in the middle, given that it appears to be a surprise attack, and not one coordinated by the Klingon government (possibly...), but obviously there is the ongoing devastating war with territorial takeovers to consider.
The show isn't too clear on the war and it's devastation or lack thereof changes every other scene. The Klingons are neither Nazis nor ISIS, but represent an existential, disorganized threat somewhere inbetween. Starbase 1 may have been a military installation, but it appears to have housed families and civilians. I'm not even sure how structured the Klingon military is at this point, or at least the Klingons who decided to take down Starbase 1.
Correct. It's a great show, except for the writing, acting, aesthetics, and method of delivery. The DP does good work.
...well. The cast is great!
But yeah. This is a show bursting with potential. But so far, only realizing very, very little of that.
Could have been worse. They could have said it would have caused all life everywhere to die an infinite number of times!
I like to think one of the hackier executive producers (probably Kurtzman) intervened at the last minute to insist on that script change. It's much easier to think that one person with a lot of pull is a moron than every single person in the writing room.
Well, Kurtzman is certainly up there in terms of hackiness (pretty much his entire writing career with Orci testifies to that)... but let us not neglect the input of supreme hack Akiva Goldsman, who literally had a writing credit on both the beginning and the end of the Klingon war.
Took the Goldsman-tarring words right outta my mouth. 
If two people had to leave, why couldn't it be Kurtzman and Goldsman? And I am yet to be convinced that Harberts is any good either, but I don't have a long history of being dissatisfied with him like I have with the other two.
If two people had to leave, why couldn't it be Kurtzman and Goldsman? And I am yet to be convinced that Harberts is any good either, but I don't have a long history of being dissatisfied with him like I have with the other two.
I feel like any Klingon who'd qualify crawling towards Earth and glowering at it a bit before flying home without firing a shot as "attempting an attack" may as well put a tattoo on his forehead saying "I am a braggart and coward; please challenge me to the death and take my House and lands as your own upon my inevitable death at your hands."
Damn. You know how to write a post, there's no denying that.
What Data suggested was only a "theory", not scientific fact. In Star Trek we still don't know what actually causes all these divergent universes to come into existence. Even when we think we know, we don’t. Take the Kelvin Universe as an example. We thought that it diverged from the prime universe and yet there is also a view that it always has existed separate to prime universe.
It is possible that in no other parallel universe was the spore technology misused in the same manner as in the mirror universe.
The statement that for "any event, there is an infinite..." [infinite?
] ..."number of possible outcomes. Our choices determine which outcomes will follow" is for the most part true. However the view "that all possibilities that can happen, do happen" remains unproven.
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What saved the multiverse is what will ultimately save Culber: chaotic handwaving euphemistically referred to on the Disco set as "writing".
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